Janitor_genie
Janitor_genie GRM+ Memberand New Reader
11/25/23 4:50 p.m.

Long time lurker here. I have been wanting to build a prewar special type machine, inspired by the Miller 91 and other Indy cars/dirt track racers of the time. In researching relatively contemporary motors, I came across a $20 Pontiac straight 8 and a couple of $500 Buick 8s. Are the motors worth hot rodding? I havent found much on them. The end goal would be a cool 250-300 reliable hp, either with or without FI.

Antihero
Antihero GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/25/23 5:06 p.m.

You are asking us???

 

The answer is almost always yes, and when it's not it's actually double yes

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt UltimaDork
11/25/23 5:16 p.m.

Buick straight eights are pretty much the motor to use in certain Bonneville racing vintage classes, being one of the few motors the class allows with a good-flowing overhead valve cylinder head.

Janitor_genie
Janitor_genie GRM+ Memberand New Reader
11/25/23 6:13 p.m.

In reply to MadScientistMatt :

I assume one does not acquire parts from the JEGS catalogue. Where would I go for (say) a cam, full valvetrain upgrades, and better pistons/rods? 

stuart in mn
stuart in mn MegaDork
11/25/23 6:28 p.m.

I agree, about the only straight 8 used in any sort of competition these days is the Buick, and then only by a few people.  Parts are all going to be custom.  Try searching for Bonneville racers using them, they must be posting on a forum somewhere about their engine builds.   I just did a google search on 'buick straight 8 performance' and got a few hits. Also try an image search on the same terms and you'll find more.

 

Vintage photo:

ShawnG
ShawnG MegaDork
11/25/23 6:47 p.m.

Beware, if you buy a Buick 8 that had a Dynflow transmission behind it, the crank isn't drilled for a pilot bearing.

If you want to put manual transmission behind it, you'll have to pull the crank and have it machined.

Janitor_genie
Janitor_genie GRM+ Memberand New Reader
11/25/23 6:54 p.m.

In reply to ShawnG :

That is very good to know! I expect to be doing a lot of machining to run the car, as painful as it is I suppose I will have to do that as well. Any motor I buy will have sat for a while and likely need an extensive rebuild.

Janitor_genie
Janitor_genie GRM+ Memberand New Reader
11/25/23 6:55 p.m.

In reply to stuart in mn :

That photo is gold. Its interesting to see what people were doing back then. Six carbs must have been a pain to adjust but I bet such a motor was a beast all through the revs.

 

Edit: With your search terms, found this link: https://forums.aaca.org/topic/277721-hi-performance-straight-eights/ , which is rich with all the right knowledge.

Datsun240ZGuy
Datsun240ZGuy MegaDork
11/25/23 7:16 p.m.

$20 straight 8 weighs?  Why didn't the dude scrap it to make more money?  

Actually I'm against scrapping it but $20?

Janitor_genie
Janitor_genie GRM+ Memberand New Reader
11/25/23 11:03 p.m.

In reply to Datsun240ZGuy :

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1454107122072085/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A8e421fe6-ff02-4502-90fa-442271722cd7

 

Here it is for anyone who might be interested. its 20 obo so he must REALLY want it gone. Its probably just a pain to move. 

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