96DXCivic
96DXCivic HalfDork
1/8/10 1:18 p.m.

I was wondering if I have left any basic suspension geometries out of this list. I am working on a manual for school on the development of suspension for the NASA Great Moonbuggy Race.

Live axle in a bunch of setups

Double wishbone

Trailing arm

Semi-trailing arm

Swing Axle

Trailing Link

Macpherson strut

Twist axle

alfadriver
alfadriver Dork
1/8/10 1:20 p.m.

sliding arm (see front of a morgan)

keethrax
keethrax Reader
1/8/10 1:24 p.m.

In reply to alfadriver:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_F7QrR4Ur8

alfadriver
alfadriver Dork
1/8/10 1:28 p.m.
keethrax wrote: In reply to alfadriver: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_F7QrR4Ur8

that seems like an extreme swing arm set up. Amaxing motion, that's for sure.

96DXCivic
96DXCivic HalfDork
1/8/10 1:30 p.m.

That video is insane I have to give a thumbs up to the guys who built that. Was the sliding arm suspension used on anything other then Morgan's?

Schmidlap
Schmidlap Reader
1/8/10 5:12 p.m.

What about the De Dion suspension?

irish44j
irish44j Reader
1/8/10 5:26 p.m.

nevermind....

96DXCivic
96DXCivic HalfDork
1/8/10 5:28 p.m.

I included the de Dion with the live axle since the de Dion is really more about the drivetrain in a lot of ways.

stafford1500
stafford1500 GRM+ Memberand New Reader
1/8/10 5:34 p.m.

The most basic of all, no springs, movement. Fixed solid to the vehicle (karts anyone).

iceracer
iceracer HalfDork
1/8/10 5:36 p.m.

Long double arm re: offroad buggies.

96DXCivic
96DXCivic HalfDork
1/8/10 7:43 p.m.
stafford1500 wrote: The most basic of all, no springs, movement. Fixed solid to the vehicle (karts anyone).

That equals no suspension

MrJoshua
MrJoshua SuperDork
1/8/10 7:49 p.m.
96DXCivic wrote:
stafford1500 wrote: The most basic of all, no springs, movement. Fixed solid to the vehicle (karts anyone).
That equals no suspension

Not necessarily, karts have quite a suspension through chassis flex.

alfadriver
alfadriver Dork
1/8/10 8:34 p.m.
96DXCivic wrote: I included the de Dion with the live axle since the de Dion is really more about the drivetrain in a lot of ways.

Not really- you should check the Alfa Alfetta, GTV6, and Milano. Transaxle mounted to the chassis, and de-Dion for the wheels. Not live axle- no need to suspend the beam for torque twist.

E-

96DXCivic
96DXCivic HalfDork
1/8/10 8:36 p.m.
alfadriver wrote:
96DXCivic wrote: I included the de Dion with the live axle since the de Dion is really more about the drivetrain in a lot of ways.
Not really- you should check the Alfa Alfetta, GTV6, and Milano. Transaxle mounted to the chassis, and de-Dion for the wheels. Not live axle- no need to suspend the beam for torque twist. E-

Thanks for that heads up. I was thinking about those Alfas earlier. I knew they had de Dion setup but I was wondering how the rear suspension was done.

96DXCivic
96DXCivic HalfDork
1/8/10 8:43 p.m.
MrJoshua wrote:
96DXCivic wrote:
stafford1500 wrote: The most basic of all, no springs, movement. Fixed solid to the vehicle (karts anyone).
That equals no suspension
Not necessarily, karts have quite a suspension through chassis flex.

I don't think I am going to get much travel out of that setup which is needed on the vehicle I am working on.

JoeyM
JoeyM Reader
1/8/10 9:05 p.m.

double wishbone with pushrod

double wishbone with pullrod

torsion bar

96DXCivic
96DXCivic HalfDork
1/8/10 9:18 p.m.

Is the torsion bar what chrysler had in the front of there cars for a long time?

MrJoshua
MrJoshua SuperDork
1/8/10 9:41 p.m.
96DXCivic wrote:
MrJoshua wrote:
96DXCivic wrote:
stafford1500 wrote: The most basic of all, no springs, movement. Fixed solid to the vehicle (karts anyone).
That equals no suspension
Not necessarily, karts have quite a suspension through chassis flex.
I don't think I am going to get much travel out of that setup which is needed on the vehicle I am working on.

Need more Flex!

JoeyM
JoeyM Reader
1/9/10 9:24 a.m.
96DXCivic wrote: Is the torsion bar what chrysler had in the front of their cars for a long time?

Yes. There are some pics of that setup near the bottom of this page: http://www.allpar.com/cars/suspensions.html

iceracer
iceracer HalfDork
1/9/10 10:03 a.m.

They even had two different torsion bar systems.

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