In reply to Parker with too many Projects :
Actually that was a question I had, regarding the diesel emissions here on the Denver/Front Range. (I live in Centennial) I know about the opacity test but are they also doing an obd2 scan and checking for readiness codes and a tune? The Air Care places are beginning to check for tunes/flash counter on the gasser cars...
I looked at Cayenne diesels before I bought the e-hybrid. The transfer case issues initially gave me pause- but many have found that draining and refilling have cured any issues. Lots of info on the Porsche forum.
I think both are super cool, for off road though- I'd probably get the Touareg.
In reply to docwyte :
I think they plug in and test for readiness, however none of the tunes I'm aware of remove any of the readiness monitors. That's probably a question for the tuner. I think the big advantage is that the diesel emissions are tested through independent shops and not Air Care, so there's no state connection other than verifying a passing test.
In reply to Parker with too many Projects :
But if you delete the EGR and DEF, won't the readiness codes not be set/ready? I know Malone says they don't play with the readiness codes, so Stage 1-2.5 with all the factory hardware should pass no problem. Unless they're checking for tunes.
In reply to grover:
The cayenne diesels don't have the transfer case problems the other cayenne's have.
This 35mpg highway...I assume that's V6 diesel, not V8, correct?
In reply to Spearfishin :
Yes, V6 3 liter turbo diesel
I've pretty well sold the wife on trying to find a diesel Cayenne to replace her diesel Golf Sportwagen. My questions now that I've browsed some ad's:
Thanks!
docwyte said:Necro lift! Posting to say that I liked the Cayenne diesel enough that I just bought a Touareg TDI R line as my "new" daily.
Our cayenne now has 112k miles on it and is still running strong. No real issues, it's under warranty until January of 2025 or 120k miles. The Touareg I just bought is probably out of warranty, I need to check...
Doc - I'm thinking about replacing my 2012 X5 (e70) diesel with a newer version. My default would be to find a next-generation X5 (F15) but figure I might as well consider a Cayenne/Touareg/Q7 at the same time. It would be a 958 Cayenne or equivalent VW/Audi. Would you share your thoughts on your 958? And, knowing you love it, why did you go with the VW instead of another Cayenne?
In reply to Spearfishin :
You're not going to be able to retrofit air ride. You also don't want it, it's complicated and problem prone with age/mileage. It's really hard to find a diesel with it, that was a custom order, not a dealer stock order.
Only one headlight option that I know of
There's a website you can go to to check warranty, however at this point, the '15 will have a little warranty left, depending on mileage and the 16's are the only ones that will probably all have some warranty left
Look for service records. That generally means buying from a private party, not a dealer
Because these are optioned a la carte and there can be significant differences between them. Also some people think their cars are worth much more than they are
In reply to dyintorace :
We've put almost 100k miles on it and it's been pretty solid for us. Really only one blip, early on that was covered by warranty. A few warranty coverage items on the DEF heater. All I've done are brakes (fronts twice, rears once, might need to do fronts again soon) and tires.
In retrospect I should've continued to search and buy another 958 diesel vs the VW. However, finding a cayenne with the options I wanted, that was in good shape, with service records, and a reasonable price was turning out to be far more work than I cared to do. The VW was local, well kept, service records, and comes with all the options I wanted, plus was quite a bit cheaper than the cayennes I was seeing. Even though those cayennes didn't have the options I wanted, and had more mileage than my VW, they were still thousands of dollars more. The VW is missing the heated steering wheel and cooled seats I was hoping to get, but the deal I got for it, and the condition it's in made up for it. I also prefer the Touareg's exterior looks over the cayenne.
The big difference between the two is that the cayenne is much nicer inside. Nicer leather, better instrumentation, faster/better stereo, etc. With enough time, I might've found one equipped how I wanted, with the service history and mileage I wanted, but not at the price I wanted to pay and definitely not local. So then more time/money spent trying to get it checked out and either paying for shipping or a fly n drive. Which then increases the delta spent even more...
docwyte said:In reply to dyintorace :
We've put almost 100k miles on it and it's been pretty solid for us. Really only one blip, early on that was covered by warranty. A few warranty coverage items on the DEF heater. All I've done are brakes (fronts twice, rears once, might need to do fronts again soon) and tires.
In retrospect I should've continued to search and buy another 958 diesel vs the VW. However, finding a cayenne with the options I wanted, that was in good shape, with service records, and a reasonable price was turning out to be far more work than I cared to do. The VW was local, well kept, service records, and comes with all the options I wanted, plus was quite a bit cheaper than the cayennes I was seeing. Even though those cayennes didn't have the options I wanted, and had more mileage than my VW, they were still thousands of dollars more. The VW is missing the heated steering wheel and cooled seats I was hoping to get, but the deal I got for it, and the condition it's in made up for it. I also prefer the Touareg's exterior looks over the cayenne.
The big difference between the two is that the cayenne is much nicer inside. Nicer leather, better instrumentation, faster/better stereo, etc. With enough time, I might've found one equipped how I wanted, with the service history and mileage I wanted, but not at the price I wanted to pay and definitely not local. So then more time/money spent trying to get it checked out and either paying for shipping or a fly n drive. Which then increases the delta spent even more...
Thanks for the thoughts. What would you say are the 'must have' and 'nice to have' options on a 958? I live in FL so I can do without the heated steering wheel, but my X5 has cooled (and heated) seats and that is now a must have! :D
Must haves will be different from everybody. For me, roof rails and tow package were must haves. Wants were heated steering wheel and heated/cooled seats. I was having a hard time finding ones with the roof rails/tow package, let alone the other stuff.
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