Tell Me Why I Shouldn't Build an RA64 Celica Rally Car

I've looked at the 3SGE/6spd as a swap candidate. Here's my concern for your plans.

22R = rear sump

3SGE = front sump

The workaround on this is doable but not super easy and seeing that you are in an arena that often eats pans it may be a concern. Nothing that can't be cured with a robust spare stash, though. 

 My other concern, finding a good chassis to build from. These model years have all but disappeared her in the south.

Some AZ6 details.....  the J160 is one version

S15    6 spd              3.626   2.200   1.541   1.213   1.000    0.767

NISMO     2.907  1.989     1.537   1.218   1.000   0.862 

RX8    6 spd     3.760   2.269   1.645   1.187   1.000    0.843

Miata  6-spd  99-       3.760   2.269    1.645   1.257   1.000   0.843

SXE10 (J160)  6 sp     3.874   2.175    1.484   1.223   1.000   0.869

TRD(33030-SE100)    3.106   2.175    1.585   1.223   1.000   0.869 

 FRS - First Gear Ratio (:1):3.626

Second Gear Ratio (:1):2.188

Third Gear Ratio (:1):1.541

Fourth Gear Ratio (:1):1.213

Fifth Gear Ratio (:1):1.000

Sixth Gear Ratio (:1):0.767

Note similarity to S15 ratios

The gear box (housing) itself - there are 2 different housings... the J160 version, and all the others.  The J160 version is a stouter box (heavier, more substantial casting) then the others.

While they hold up to most of the engines put in front of them, the Nissan boys found that once they modified their SR20DE to around 300-320 #/ft that they began to break transmissions - a "C" clip would come dislodged and damage would ensue.  

With more grunt(wide powerband)... you'll need less gears

from my photo archive, accidentally ran across it tonight, from like 2014...

irish44j said:

from my photo archive, accidentally ran across it tonight, from like 2014...

Them!  That's the 2RZ-engined car I was thinking of.

Thehobiercr said:

22R = rear sump

3SGE = front sump

My other concern, finding a good chassis to build from. These model years have all but disappeared here in the south.

The pickup truck 22R and the Celica 22R have different sumps if I’m not mistaken. The RA64 22R should be front sump. Pickups are mid or rear.

As for the concern about a chassis, they aren’t exactly common, but also aren’t too hard to source out West.

You’re welcome! I love helping solve problems, especially when the discussion at hand includes an idea this awesome!

NickD said:

GIRTHQUAKE said:

Can these fit a 1UZ or other Toyota V8? Becuase I have been thinking of a similar idea for a future project, too.

As for trans, why not a W58 or other W series?

There was a member on here that had one that was 1UZ swapped. Or he was in the process of swapping a 1UZ into one. I was never certain. Speaking of which, where has Trackmouse been? I feel like I haven't seen him lately

I’m here. Just don’t comment as much anymore. Too much drama. Yeah the 1uz fits, cheap swap. Light too. Plenty of torque. The w58 is a clunky transmission. Ratios aren’t awful, but not great. I don’t like the shift feel. R154 is what I would do. (Oh, and thanks for caring and remembering!)

Knurled. said:

irish44j said:

from my photo archive, accidentally ran across it tonight, from like 2014...

Them!  That's the 2RZ-engined car I was thinking of.

yeah, a few years later I loaned them my spare Spal fan when their failed on stage :)