In reply to Tony Sestito :
The materials and the amount of blank space on that infotainment system makes GM interiors look world-class. That is absolutely embarrassing and honestly inexcusable in 1997.
In reply to Tony Sestito :
The materials and the amount of blank space on that infotainment system makes GM interiors look world-class. That is absolutely embarrassing and honestly inexcusable in 1997.
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit...
Please let the STI be better. Please let the STI be better. Please let the STI be better. Please let the STI be better. Please let the STI be better. Please let the STI be better.
Tom Suddard said:I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit...
Please let the STI be better. Please let the STI be better. Please let the STI be better. Please let the STI be better. Please let the STI be better. Please let the STI be better.
Also, please give the STi more than ~300hp for the love of god.
On the STI:
The NASIOC folks were hoping for a 400hp STI to match up to the new Z car, and there were rumors that this was a likely power figure. But with the new WRX making what it makes, expectations are dialed back quite a bit. They are now thinking around 350hp.
My guess: It makes right around 315hp and/or is a hybrid, gets saddled with a CVT just like the top model WRX, and costs north of $50k. That's a whole bunch of NOPE.
Mach V Motorsports just dropped this photo edit of what the WRX would look like if the cladding was body-colored. Thoughts?
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) said:In reply to Tony Sestito :
The materials and the amount of blank space on that infotainment system makes GM interiors look world-class. That is absolutely embarrassing and honestly inexcusable in 1997.
It's currently offered in some of their other cars and is absolutely terrible both aesthetically and functionally. The last WRX I drove (a 2018 Premium) had a really bad infotainment system that sounded like muffled garbage and would randomly scroll through radio stations and cycle sources on its own at random, so I can only imagine what either one of these things would do. I can just see the HVAC controls going haywire and cycling through all the different climate settings at random!
If the STi gets a CVT, it makes the decision between STi and Golf R for my next car way easier, that's for sure.
In reply to Tony Sestito :
At this point Subaru just needs to lean on their partnership with Toyota to make the new STI a rebadged Z4 in an effort to save face.
In reply to Colin Wood :
Looks like they tried smoothing and rounding out the wheel arches too. Colored or not, the body lines around those wheel arches make the 18" wheels look small.
Have aftermarket vendors started designing carbon fiber wheel well covers yet?
In reply to Colin Wood :
My thoughts on it are that I feel really terrible for small business owners that built their business and reputation on providing quality aftermarket options and service for Subarus.
There are very few instances in business where your market share can get slashed significantly due to no fault of your own. Being a specialist, particularly one with an aftermarket focus, for specific brand is one of them as if that brand loses its following then your potential market share is affected.
Colin Wood said:Mach V Motorsports just dropped this photo edit of what the WRX would look like if the cladding was body-colored. Thoughts?
It costs nothing to be kind. Instagram: @theother_woodbrother.
It certainly looks better without the lame body cladding. The taillights scream "CIVIC" to me, but whatevs, that's hardly the biggest issue with the styling. Why would Subaru put unpainted plastics on this car? That stuff belongs on the XTs or the other "overlandy" models, not the WRX.
I don't want a screen that big.
thatsnowinnebago said:Colin Wood said:Mach V Motorsports just dropped this photo edit of what the WRX would look like if the cladding was body-colored. Thoughts?
It costs nothing to be kind. Instagram: @theother_woodbrother.
It certainly looks better without the lame body cladding. The taillights scream "CIVIC" to me, but whatevs, that's hardly the biggest issue with the styling. Why would Subaru put unpainted plastics on this car? That stuff belongs on the XTs or the other "overlandy" models, not the WRX.
Weird, I'm on the flip side and think it looks better with the black cladding. I hate the cladding, and I think its a crutch for a bad design, but the orange cladding makes the body look too tall and the wheels too small
I don't have issue with black cladding on a WRX, on a rally car painted surfaces get pretty gnarly. The issue is that nothing else about this design screams rally car.
I'll go back to the Gran Turismo reference of an earlier post I made. Back in the day when you're one certain races you would win a vehicle, and it would show four vehicles spinning around and it would stop on the one that you want but you didn't get to select it It was randomized. If you had this, an Elantra N, a Civic R and a GTI spinning around and it landed on this as your prize, you'd be disappointed. Subaru has made front wheel drive seem more fun exciting and engaging than all wheel drive.
Their lack of return on investment with regards to R&D is also amazing. This is now the second engine in a WRX since the EJ25, And yet power output is remarkably similar, And let's not pretend that there's been an increase in reliability or efficiency with the "evolution" of their engines.
And that's not even the real problem. 260 to 270 horsepower with all-wheel drive and a manual and torque vectoring can be very fun. But when the steering feel hasn't improved and the curb weight hasn't improved, then you have to question what does it actually do better? And if that answer is things that would appeal to mainstream car buyers and make the model appear to less of a niche market, then kill the model, because you already put the engine in a multitude of other vehicles.
With regards to performance focused vehicles, Subaru has lost it's way and I don't see it coming back. At least Mitsubishi didn't call the new Eclipse an Evo...
NickD said:thatsnowinnebago said:Colin Wood said:Mach V Motorsports just dropped this photo edit of what the WRX would look like if the cladding was body-colored. Thoughts?
It costs nothing to be kind. Instagram: @theother_woodbrother.
It certainly looks better without the lame body cladding. The taillights scream "CIVIC" to me, but whatevs, that's hardly the biggest issue with the styling. Why would Subaru put unpainted plastics on this car? That stuff belongs on the XTs or the other "overlandy" models, not the WRX.
Weird, I'm on the flip side and think it looks better with the black cladding. I hate the cladding, and I think its a crutch for a bad design, but the orange cladding makes the body look too tall and the wheels too small
How dare you respectfully disagree with me?! This is the internet and I expect vitriol.
This looks like a Hyundai Kona Sedan to me. I've seen better and I've seen worse. Dear Subaru, please bring back the WRX Wagon. That is all.
GCrites80s said:I don't want a screen that big.
I don't want a screen.
The photoshops are starting to get weird.
Colin Wood said:Mach V Motorsports just dropped this photo edit of what the WRX would look like if the cladding was body-colored. Thoughts?
Bitchin Dodge Dart with rubbermaid flares!
Tony Sestito said: *snip*And there's a lot of confusion over the automatic trans. Some sources say it's a CVT, while others say it's a traditional automatic with gears. Either way, everyone agrees that having no manual option on the model with all the goodies is dumb.
No it isn't. Now people that can't/won't drive a clutch can buy a model "with all the goodies".
Pete. (l33t FS) said:GCrites80s said:I don't want a screen that big.
I don't want a screen.
Legally required on vehicles now, so you're limiting options quite a bit
Ok I am calling out you whining brats.
Whahhh it's ugly. Every WRX has been ugly. Almost ever Subaru ever is ugly.
Whahh it doesn't make enough power. Be happy it is not a hybrid. The aftermarket will have 350 plus hp in a tune.
Whahh I don't like flares. Need I point you to the 60 pages of posts regarding box flares on this site.
In two months the magazines will be allowed to drive it and they will all fawn over it. Go buy a nice used Prius already and be done with it and stop the bitching.
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