Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Publisher
9/25/24 12:33 p.m.

40 years of Project Cars. Wow, is that a lot of busted knuckles, stripped bolts and lifelong friendships. 

At Grassroots Motorsports, Project Car isn’t just a descriptor but a proper noun with huge weight attached to it. And while I’m only 30 years old, I was there in some capacity for the vast majority of the Project Cars in our pages.  …

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Andy Hollis
Andy Hollis
9/25/24 6:03 p.m.

The clear vision/goal thing is so spot on.  When I am working to a specific goal, I get a LOT done.  Never as much as I'd like, but still quite a bit.  Rebuilding the One Lap CRX this past year was one such project.

Often, once I have accomplished the more immediate goal...I then flounder as to what comes next.  And the car then sits and gathers dust.  I am embarassed to admit just how long a certain orange car has been sitting idly by in garage bay #2.

yupididit
yupididit UltimaDork
9/25/24 6:10 p.m.

Be organized and plan ahead. Label things, be neat, have money lol

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
9/25/24 7:00 p.m.

Take pictures of everything. Before and as you take it apart.  Multiple pictures. Different angles. Electrons are free and don't weigh anything.

"I'll remember were everything goes." No, you berkeleying won't.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/25/24 7:59 p.m.
Andy Hollis said:

The clear vision/goal thing is so spot on.  When I am working to a specific goal, I get a LOT done.  Never as much as I'd like, but still quite a bit.  Rebuilding the One Lap CRX this past year was one such project.

Often, once I have accomplished the more immediate goal...I then flounder as to what comes next.  And the car then sits and gathers dust.  I am embarassed to admit just how long a certain orange car has been sitting idly by in garage bay #2.

I feel attacked but also have a sense of comradeship.

Putting Subaru subframes in a Mini, easy, done.

Putting a Subaru center tunnel in a Mini, easy, done.

Making strut towers, easy, done.

Fit an entire 3" turbo-back exhaust next to the transmission and inside the center tunnel above floor height so it can't snag on anything at a rallycross? Easy! Done!

Figuring out how to plumb the coolant back to the radiator and build a rear firewall around a roll cage that isn't there yet... um...let me get back to you on that

SeniorPBA2B
SeniorPBA2B New Reader
2/23/25 12:07 p.m.

21 years goes by quick. Project #1 started in 2004, project #2 started in 2011. If only I had a dollar for every time someone asked, "Why a Dodge Neon?" Over the years, I've scratched my head and asked that same question a few times, but with no regrets.

Autocrossing the first car led to road racing the second ... and while I agree with the OP's statement about partners (been there done that many times before) this time with the right person it worked out great. I'm the wrench and crew chief, my partner is the driver, and all expenses are documented and split down the middle.

Over the years I have seen many people come and go in our sport, mostly because they fail to plan and look at the big picture. Besides talent, hard work and dedication, the two main factors to being successful in motorsports are time and money, and then deciding how much of each can be afforded to the project(s), and what sacrifices you are willing to make. These choices can be extremely hard and frustrating ... especially if you do not have a supportive significant other. How much will "life" get in the way of your goals?

Besides an adequate supply of tools and a decent size garage: the space needed to work on and store the race car, a sizable amount of spares, and all the wheels and tires are all essential, so are a reliable tow vehicle and trailer. Once you carefully plan how much time and money it will take to build the race car to the absolute limits of the rulebook, then add up all the incidentals: bent and broken race car repairs and maintenance, tow vehicle and trailer repairs and maintenance, entry fees, travel costs, fuel, driver safety gear, shelter, food and drink, etc., etc., and tires, tires, and more tires. And then, be truthfully honest with yourself about what kind of race car you can afford to run and in what class.

Come on in, the water is fine. Just be mindful: however much you think it will cost to go racing, double it. 

Jim Kidd

MCOOK
MCOOK GRM+ Memberand New Reader
2/23/25 3:36 p.m.

In reply to Andy Hollis :

Specific goals - 100%.  I had a decision to make in order to run in vintage racing in 2025.  So, I divided up my 4 projects into priorities (listed in order) as well as goals.  I am retired, so have more time than most.

Project Car #1 - 1972 TR6.  Would have been a project, but decided this was going to be my "go to" race car as it has solid bones, pedigree and almost no time on a rebuilt race engine.   I decided to outsource the work.  $$$$ and more $$$.   Boom.  Done.  Arrive and drive.

Project Car #2 - 1969 TR6. Will be my backup vintage race car, and a true project. This car was purchased "ready to race', but was "ready for nothing".  This was a great example of why you should "Buy the best example you can afford"  It was not.  So, I am deconstructing, replacing and wrenching 100% myself, except for the engine build and cage. Investing the time, effort and money to get it right. Will cost far more $$ than if I had purchased the "best example".  To make sure it gets done, it is in a dedicated garage, with tools.  I can cut the lights out, leave, return, crank up the music, and pick up where I left off.  It will be fun to work on with a target completion goal by end of 2025.

Project Car #3 - 1972 TR6 -  survivor vintage street car, needs some minor work relative to #1 and #2, after sitting for a while.  Has lower priority and will be done as time permits.  It is in a separate garage with Project Car #4 below.  This will be done by end of 2025 as well.

Project Car #4 - 1985 M635Csi - mostly 99% done vintage street car.  Not quite a true project, but required my time and effort to sort out any issues.  When acquired 20 years ago, was focused and got a lot of work done within the first year.  Remaining work stalled after taking a back seat to my SE46 race car and now current projects.

Projects cars #1, #2 and #3 were purchased at the same time, after I sold my SE46 and decided to go full vintage.  Oh, do not forget, there is always the "while there" and "one more thing", that can add to project creep that can drive up the budget.

Planning, planning and more planning.  I did not jump into the projects above without a lot of planning, researching all the bits, I would need, but also where I would start.  I have broken down the work into sub-projects which mitigates being overwhelmed, provides me a sense of accomplishment and motivation.

I cannot say enough about the GREAT resources I have able to tap into with Friends of Triumph, and the head of the local Triumph organization.  Wow!  Without them, not sure where I would be without their assistance, and now, friendships.   Anytime someone on that forum needs something, I try to give back where I can help, such as loaning my torque plate to a fellow member in Wisconsin.

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