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Bobzilla
Bobzilla SuperDork
5/4/12 9:25 a.m.

i LIKE THE idea of this:

But with some decent wheels.

ST_ZX2
ST_ZX2 HalfDork
5/4/12 9:29 a.m.

10-4 on the wheels. Some white 17" Kosei K-1s would look sick on that.

HStockSolo
HStockSolo Reader
5/4/12 9:32 a.m.
ST_ZX2 wrote: The Escort wagon is the same chassis as my ZX2. 8" wheels and 225s will fit, the rear is tighter than the front.

Another reason why a 1995 Saturn SW2 is the obvious answer. It might be that the wagon can't fit quite as much tires as the coupe, but 245s on 9" wide wheels are likely possible.

Stealing ProDarwin's own picture of his former SW2 on 225/45s on 15x9s (less than ideal offset rims).

spitfirebill
spitfirebill SuperDork
5/4/12 9:35 a.m.

The sporty version of the Matrix/Vibe.

CLNSC3
CLNSC3 HalfDork
5/4/12 9:35 a.m.

My suggestion was going to be an early impreza wagon or a 1st gen legacy turbo wagon....but then I saw you ruled those out.

A few years back I remember seeing an 80's 4wd civic wagon with a b-series for sale..that thing was bad ass.

One car I have always liked but that is not exactly a lightweight is the Accord wagon, like 96ish...I think they are around 3000, so its a porker but they can be gorgeous cars!

Bobzilla
Bobzilla SuperDork
5/4/12 9:59 a.m.

http://www.fquick.com/garages/viewvehicle.php?id=5433

407hp, 2300lbs. Boom!

Bobzilla
Bobzilla SuperDork
5/4/12 10:12 a.m.

?? http://www.fquick.com/garages/viewvehicle.php?id=5433

I just posted this and it disappeared..... 406hp, 2300lbs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATCrezP27vQ

Ian F
Ian F UberDork
5/4/12 10:24 a.m.

It's way above your weight limit (I think my car weighs around 3300), but a Jetta wagon with a 1.8t can get 30 mpg on a good day and can be modded to produce stupid amounts of power (240 is pretty easy). If you ignore the "slam-it-to-the-ground" crowd, they can be made to handle reasonably well.

A TDI version like mine will easily get 40+ mpg in modded form, 50 mpg stock.

There is a "unicorn" VR6/6spd version that was made in small numbers as well, but those make my TDI look common.

Of the cars mentioned so far, the Focus is the only one that interests me.

ST_ZX2
ST_ZX2 HalfDork
5/4/12 10:26 a.m.
HStockSolo wrote:
ST_ZX2 wrote: The Escort wagon is the same chassis as my ZX2. 8" wheels and 225s will fit, the rear is tighter than the front.
Another reason why a 1995 Saturn SW2 is the obvious answer. It might be that the wagon can't fit quite as much tires as the coupe, but 245s on 9" wide wheels are likely possible. Stealing ProDarwin's own picture of his former SW2 on 225/45s on 15x9s (less than ideal offset rims).

I'm sure you could do more on the 'Scort too, if we breach the plane of the fender lip like you did on the Saturn. I was talking about keeping it all under the coachwork. That said, it looks great as it sat there.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
5/4/12 10:46 a.m.
ST_ZX2 wrote: The Escort wagon is the same chassis as my ZX2. 8" wheels and 225s will fit, the rear is tighter than the front.

The flat top of the rear wheel well sucks so bad...

failboat
failboat Dork
5/4/12 10:55 a.m.

cut! and add flares!

ST_ZX2
ST_ZX2 HalfDork
5/4/12 10:57 a.m.

The 98+ (SPI cars) have an arched top.

failboat
failboat Dork
5/4/12 10:59 a.m.
Bobzilla wrote: i LIKE THE idea of this: http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2010/06/23/05/18/1996_hyundai_elantra_4_dr_gls_wagon-pic-3480256881597397953.jpeg But with some decent wheels.

needs to be a darker color.....IMO. the use of the sedan rear doors makes the whole hatch area look like an afterthought, lets just cut the rear side windows to fit the doors! bright colors only make it stand out even more.

looks quite spacious though!

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
5/4/12 11:01 a.m.
ST_ZX2 wrote: The 98+ (SPI cars) have an arched top.

Hrmm... did not know that. Thought the wagons kept the flat top since pretty much the entire car save for the front clip didn't change.

ST_ZX2
ST_ZX2 HalfDork
5/4/12 11:47 a.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
ST_ZX2 wrote: The 98+ (SPI cars) have an arched top.
Hrmm... did not know that. Thought the wagons kept the flat top since pretty much the entire car save for the front clip didn't change.

garaithon
garaithon New Reader
5/4/12 12:02 p.m.

How about the Suzuki Aerio wagon? I know nothing about them but I always thought they looked cool. The PT Cruiser is another good choice. I Just bought one with the 2.4 turbo and 5 speed and really like it!

ST_ZX2
ST_ZX2 HalfDork
5/4/12 12:04 p.m.

Suzuki? And we thought that Hyundai had a piss-poor aftermarket...

garaithon
garaithon New Reader
5/4/12 12:19 p.m.
ST_ZX2 wrote: Suzuki? And we thought that Hyundai had a piss-poor aftermarket...

I thought this was Grassroots Motorsports, not "bolt-on parts motorsports?"

ST_ZX2
ST_ZX2 HalfDork
5/4/12 12:20 p.m.
garaithon wrote:
ST_ZX2 wrote: Suzuki? And we thought that Hyundai had a piss-poor aftermarket...
I thought this was Grassroots Motorsports, not "bolt-on parts motorsports?"

Well, then, with the Suzuki, you're indeed there!

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
5/4/12 12:20 p.m.
ST_ZX2 wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
ST_ZX2 wrote: The 98+ (SPI cars) have an arched top.
Hrmm... did not know that. Thought the wagons kept the flat top since pretty much the entire car save for the front clip didn't change.

Yep it's the same. 93 and 00 just confirmed for same panel.

SlickDizzy
SlickDizzy GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
5/5/12 12:00 p.m.

frenchy
frenchy New Reader
5/5/12 12:23 p.m.

The weight limit is so low that you miss out on the all the decent wagons. No 3 series, no Jetta, no WRX. Can't say I would rather have a Saturn, Elantra, or Focus instead. I would take the weight penalty, but that's just me.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin SuperDork
5/5/12 1:29 p.m.
frenchy wrote: The weight limit is so low that you miss out on the all the decent wagons. No 3 series, no Jetta, no WRX. Can't say I would rather have a Saturn, Elantra, or Focus instead. I would take the weight penalty, but that's just me.

There is another thread for those.

iceracer
iceracer UltraDork
5/6/12 5:20 p.m.

The Escort Wagon can easily be upgraded with ZX2SR parts The Focus wagon can easily be made into an SVT.

MrJoshua
MrJoshua PowerDork
5/6/12 6:26 p.m.

Pushes your weight limit but beats most cars on the list by more than 100hp and gets 27mpg with a tune.

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