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ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory SuperDork
9/24/14 12:27 p.m.

Titles says it all? Gotta seat two adults, three kids. Mileage not a concern but reliability IS!

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
9/24/14 12:31 p.m.
  1. buy honda accord
  2. install jaguar badges
  3. rock it like a hurricane
Klayfish
Klayfish UltraDork
9/24/14 12:31 p.m.

Uhh...then the best option is a 2001 Honda Accord, then go to a pick -n- pull and get a Jag hood ornament for the hood and emblems for the back.

Seriously, that's about as good as it'll get. Jags at any price point are trouble. $4k might get you a well kept 15 year old XJ. But a 15 year old Jag is going to give you fits no matter how well kept.

Klayfish
Klayfish UltraDork
9/24/14 12:31 p.m.
AngryCorvair wrote: 1. buy honda accord 2. install jaguar badges 3. rock it like a hurricane

Too berkleying funny...we posted the exact same thought at the same time...

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 PowerDork
9/24/14 12:49 p.m.

This thread went Twilight Zone in a hurry!

Duke
Duke UltimaDork
9/24/14 12:51 p.m.

It started in the Twilight Zone, no offense meant to the OP.

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
9/24/14 12:56 p.m.

Cheap Jag? Reliability? You kidding?

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
9/24/14 12:58 p.m.

I like electrical fires, how about you?

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson PowerDork
9/24/14 1:00 p.m.

Not quite $4K, but there was a 2001 S type posted over in the classifieds section from Craigslist in Indiana I think. It had a Ford 5.0 V8 in it. That should provide miles of smiles.

Seriously. Why not look for a nice XJ40. They are seen as very reliable over in Europe, but being a once priced high end Euro car it's automatically crap as far as the whole American based internet is concerned. Also do you car if every last widget and whotsit works? when you say reliability are you talking knick nacks or leaving you stranded?

Head over to Retro Rides Plenty of XJ40's over there bought and run on the cheap.

HappyAndy
HappyAndy UltraDork
9/24/14 1:06 p.m.
AngryCorvair wrote: 1. buy honda accord 2. install jaguar badges 3. rock it like a hurricane

SWMBO wants a Range Rover, and I have this same formula in mind, except substitute accord for element.

In all seriousness, I've looked into Jags, and it seems like the best bet for a DIYer is a V12 powered Kitty. XJ-S or XJ-12 sedan.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson PowerDork
9/24/14 1:10 p.m.
HappyAndy wrote:
AngryCorvair wrote: 1. buy honda accord 2. install jaguar badges 3. rock it like a hurricane
SWMBO wants a Range Rover, and I have this same formula in mind, except substitute accord for element. In all seriousness, I've looked into Jags, and it seems like the best bet for a DIYer is a V12 powered Kitty. XJ-S or XJ-12 sedan.
singleslammer
singleslammer SuperDork
9/24/14 1:10 p.m.

In reply to AngryCorvair & Klayfish:

That is a fine plan until you remember that those Accords have the grenade transmission. I was looking at a steal of a deal one not that long ago but the trans was toast and I walked because you can't get a good one from a junkyard and the cheapest rebuilt was $1400 shipped (damn near what I was going to pay for the car).

GCooper
GCooper New Reader
9/24/14 1:16 p.m.

DD. Jaguar. Only 4k

Pick any two

nderwater
nderwater PowerDork
9/24/14 1:19 p.m.

If you're seriously considering a Jaaag, and can't afford a late-model car, the only model to look at is the XJ. Nothing else this side of a Bentley carries as much class.

I love the sculpted hood and tail on the early (60s/70s) cars, but the modern cars (mid-90's+) are more suited for daily driving. All of them have really rich interiors - detailed leather work and expanses of beautiful wood trim. They drive like boats, but the newer cars are at least pleasantly swift boats.

The mid-90's XJ6 has the stoutest engine in your price range, but those cars are quite old now. If I were you I'd see if I could cut a deal on a 2004+ (aluminum) Jaguar XJ8.

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
9/24/14 1:24 p.m.
singleslammer wrote: In reply to AngryCorvair & Klayfish: That is a fine plan until you remember that those Accords have the grenade transmission. I was looking at a steal of a deal one not that long ago but the trans was toast and I walked because you can't get a good one from a junkyard and the cheapest rebuilt was $1400 shipped (damn near what I was going to pay for the car).

If a 5% failure rate is equal to a "grenade transmission". This problem has been totally blown out of proportion by the internet.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson PowerDork
9/24/14 1:27 p.m.
bravenrace wrote: If a 5% failure rate is equal to a "grenade transmission". This problem has been totally blown out of proportion by the internet.

Just like every WRX will eat it's trans
Just like every 2.5L WRX/STI will kill it's ring lands
Just like every M96/97 Porsche will die of terminal IMS bearing failuer
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.
.
. Just like every Jag is going to burn to the ground.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson PowerDork
9/24/14 1:28 p.m.
GCooper wrote: DD. Jaguar. Only 4k Pick any two

OK, can I pick 'DD' and '$4k' and substitute 'Maserati Bi-turbo' please?

Klayfish
Klayfish UltraDork
9/24/14 1:29 p.m.
singleslammer wrote: In reply to AngryCorvair & Klayfish: That is a fine plan until you remember that those Accords have the grenade transmission. I was looking at a steal of a deal one not that long ago but the trans was toast and I walked because you can't get a good one from a junkyard and the cheapest rebuilt was $1400 shipped (damn near what I was going to pay for the car).

OK, 2001 Toyota Camry.

Or you pick...'99 Accord or '01 Jaguar XJ8. You need to get to work every day or lose your job. Whatcha pickin? Besides, the trans failure on Hondas was an issue, but badly overblown. Wonder how many of those blown trannys ever had a fluid change...

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand Reader
9/24/14 1:33 p.m.

any 70's=90's jag with a chevy small block

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson PowerDork
9/24/14 1:35 p.m.

Seriously, what about the Ford 5.0L S type. Here's the thread from a few days ago. http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/200x-classifieds/nmna-01-jag-s-type-50/90983/page1/#post1613496

Text from as. 2001 Jaguar S-Type Hot Rod has been modded with a freshly built V8 Ford 5.0 attached to an AOD tranny with shift kit, stall converter, and B&M Hammer shifter. Custom exhaust, 20" wheels, triple core aluminum radiator. Drives great, sounds amazing!!! Looks even better! Looking for interesting trades. Prefer 4 door car or SUV. Will consider any offers. Car will need some finishing work to be bulletproof, I ran out of time as I've moved. I have a lot invested, but am realistic @$5,000 obo. Thanks!

The_Jed
The_Jed UltraDork
9/24/14 1:37 p.m.

My neighbor had a non-running xj6 in his garage (non-car people) a few years back. They are absolutely beautiful cars.

edizzle89
edizzle89 Reader
9/24/14 1:40 p.m.

you can find 5 speed awd x-types for around 4k, dont know alot about them but i think they are pretty decent.

personally though i would go for a sbc xj

The_Jed
The_Jed UltraDork
9/24/14 1:47 p.m.

Would everyone fit in a Lincoln LS?

They are basically a Jag, right? :)

singleslammer
singleslammer SuperDork
9/24/14 1:52 p.m.

In reply to bravenrace:

That is 5% before 100,000 miles. I am willing to bet that number is closing in on 40% or higher by 175k miles where most of these cars live.

The comment about changing fluid is probably right but most people who buy an Accord treat it like a Honda and barely change the oil, lest anything else.

Anyway, this has nothing to do with this thread. Lets play nice.

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
9/24/14 1:57 p.m.

In reply to singleslammer:

Any automatic trans that hasn't been maintained has a chance of failing after 100k miles. Just sayin'...
And 40%? That's pure speculation. But I agree that it has little to do with this thread, since putting a new trans in an Accord would be cheaper than many repairs I would expect on an old Jag.

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