dyintorace
dyintorace GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
2/27/13 3:40 p.m.

Sounds like a Pirelli-shod canoe, though not sure why.

yamaha
yamaha SuperDork
2/27/13 3:42 p.m.

In reply to dyintorace:

IDK, but this controversy was posted on another board.......they weren't on "illegal rubber"

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
2/27/13 3:43 p.m.

I'm flagging it as a canoe for the Jalopnik links just on principle alone.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/27/13 3:47 p.m.
Swank Force One wrote: I'm flagging it as a canoe for the Jalopnik links just on principle alone.

Agreed.

And who takes anything top Gear does as serious / face-value? It's an entertainment show.

Mmadness
Mmadness New Reader
2/27/13 3:51 p.m.
Swank Force One wrote: I'm flagging it as a canoe for the Jalopnik links just on principle alone.

No, I figure that just about everyone who reads GRM also reads Jalopnik. However, I do consider the GRM folks to be much more interested in (and knowledgable) about a technicality like this. It's amazing what happens when you don't check your sources. If you read thorugh it and look at the tires, you'll amazed at how such a reputable source made such a massive mistake.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
2/27/13 3:55 p.m.

So what? They are road tires.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
2/27/13 3:58 p.m.
Mmadness wrote:
Swank Force One wrote: I'm flagging it as a canoe for the Jalopnik links just on principle alone.
No, I figure that just about everyone who reads GRM also reads Jalopnik. However, I do consider the GRM folks to be much more interested in (and knowledgable) about a technicality like this. It's amazing what happens when you don't check your sources. If you read thorugh it and look at the tires, you'll amazed at how such a reputable source made such a massive mistake.

I'm confused, though... Are you referring to Jalopnik as a reputable source?

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
2/27/13 3:59 p.m.
Mmadness wrote:
Swank Force One wrote: I'm flagging it as a canoe for the Jalopnik links just on principle alone.
No, I figure that just about everyone who reads GRM also reads Jalopnik. However, I do consider the GRM folks to be much more interested in (and knowledgable) about a technicality like this. It's amazing what happens when you don't check your sources. If you read thorugh it and look at the tires, you'll amazed at how such a reputable source made such a massive mistake.

Just a heads up since you are new. People don't really have any love for that site around here.

yamaha
yamaha SuperDork
2/27/13 4:08 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote: So what? They are road tires.

This, they're road tires, its legit, and jalopnik can seriously DIAF. Have I won the thread yet?

fidelity101
fidelity101 HalfDork
2/27/13 4:13 p.m.

In reply to 93EXCivic:

Its like most magazines for me, I read them for the pictures. Reading the words in it makes my head hurt.

Mmadness
Mmadness New Reader
2/27/13 5:59 p.m.

"Just a heads up since you are new. People don't really have any love for that site around here."

Your are absolutely right and I was absolutely wrong, it was ignorant of me to assume this and refer to Jalopnik as "reputable" I deleted the post since it was flagged as a canoe and it really had no place on this forum. Jalopnik is a little bit like Top Gear but with alot less humor, they overlook the entire truth to make a point. In this way, Jalopnik is the epitomy of yellow journalism. This alleged scandal based on poor research is just further evidence of that. I contacted Jalopnik to try to explain the error and they're having a difficult time grasping that tire treads have to be adjusted to suit the width of a tire, that these tires could possibly be normal spec Pirellis and most importantly, they won't admit they made a massive mistake in their accusation.

yamaha
yamaha SuperDork
2/27/13 6:28 p.m.

They berkeleyed up, the other people berkeleyed up, and everyone who really gave a E36 M3 berkeleyed up. Are there enough obscenities there?

SyntheticBlinkerFluid
SyntheticBlinkerFluid UberDork
2/27/13 7:50 p.m.

I've come to the realization that Jalopnik is one of the tabloids of automotive journalism.

They are obsessed with being "on top" of things, getting spy photos, leaking "secrets" and then when they have nothing better to do, find some way to make the car companies look bad.

I had enough of them last summer and haven't really been on there since. They are still in my FB feed, so sometimes I pop over there to see what they linked too, but other than that, I don't use them as a credible source.

unevolved
unevolved Dork
2/28/13 7:42 a.m.

Yeah, Jalopnik was badass several years ago when they were basically what Hooniverse is now.

Maroon92
Maroon92 MegaDork
2/28/13 7:57 a.m.
unevolved wrote: Yeah, Jalopnik was badass several years ago when they were basically what Hooniverse is now.

This, times a million.

slefain
slefain SuperDork
2/28/13 8:48 a.m.

Jalopnik is the automotive journalism equivalent of professional wrestling.

codrus
codrus GRM+ Memberand Reader
2/28/13 4:12 p.m.

I stopped reading it when they redesigned the site a couple years ago and the usability went down the drain. They were amusing for a while.

Mmadness
Mmadness New Reader
2/28/13 4:32 p.m.

I just gave up trying to explain it to the author. It was clear he wasn't going to change it or retract his suggestion that Pagani cheated. If you guys want look at the article and then do a google search for "Pirelli PZero Corsa" and "Pirelli Trofeo", it's clear that he switched the tires names in the article's pictures. This is almost as bad as the time the NY Times called the Porshce 911 Turbo "supercharged". It's laughable that Jalopnik made such a mistake and then won't fess up to it.

Maroon92
Maroon92 MegaDork
3/1/13 8:56 a.m.

Technically, a Turbocharger is an exhaust driven Supercharger.

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
3/1/13 9:02 a.m.
Maroon92 wrote: Technically, a Turbocharger is an exhaust driven Supercharger.

They were originally called turbosuperchargers when used on the planes they were used on in the 30's and 40's.

yamaha
yamaha SuperDork
3/1/13 9:16 a.m.
turboswede wrote:
Maroon92 wrote: Technically, a Turbocharger is an exhaust driven Supercharger.
They were originally called turbosuperchargers when used on the planes they were used on in the 30's and 40's.

This precisely

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