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motomoron
motomoron Dork
10/7/13 12:43 p.m.

I'll paste in the short version of the story copied from my facebook post, and a couple pictures.

The balance of the weekend was berkeleying epic. I won my group and class both Saturday and Sunday, won the class season championship, and in the afternoon not-for-points feature race spun twice and had a fantastic 16-lap battle for the overall with a great friend who's a racer I really admire and respect. He got 1st overall, 1st in DSR class, I got 2nd overall, 1st in CSR.

With these classes being combined and renamed next year, it was for both of us our last races in our respective classes. And my parents came to the track and got to see it.

So - the whole sordid story:

As I was saying "Don't berkeley up; secure season championship"

Stop and go traffic on 270 north. It's freed up and we're going about 35, I'm letting a bigger gap open to the 28' RV trailer ahead of me when the pop-up camper ahead of him panic stopped. He in turn stomped the brakes. I saw brake lights and tire smoke, matted the brakes, looked for a hole, and the fishtailing RV eliminated the options about the time I realized that it was a simple case of physics not favoring me. He was just stopping better. I centerpunched the trailer at I'd guess, 15 or 20 mph. Airbags didn't deploy. The mighty Tacoma was dead in the water. Shifter wouldn't move, key didn't do anything, it's stuck in the middle of the left lane of 270. I get out and meet the driver of the pop-up and the RV trailer. They discuss their contact and decide there's no visible damage.

Maybe 5 minutes later I'm talking with the RV driver, facing away from my truck when he says "Uhhhhh!" and gestures behind me. The Tacoma is evidently having death throes, and after sitting inert, is rolling slowly toward me, the park pin in it's poor transmission sounding a death-rattle. I jog toward it hoping to jump in and stab the brake, but it's accelerating and I realize I just have to step back and let the backside of the Armco barrier for 270 south do it's job. Which it does. Everyone is all freaked out by this, but I'm all "Well, it's out of the way ~now~.

At this point I realize that Priority One is obtaining a replacement pickup truck with a cap and towing capacity, and pronto. I call Danny (name redacted) who:

  1. Answers his phone
  2. Cheerfully says yes, I can use his truck and he'll bring it to me immediately.

Then the state police show up along with the fire department and eventually a barrage of tow trucks. My guy unceremoniously drags the poor thing out of the Armco, points it more-or-less north, and after I explain again that yes, I have made arrangements for the trailer and gear, we tow the whole pitiful mess a mile down the road to the weigh station where I unhook the trailer and unload the truck as though I'd never see it again. Which I may well not. This is where the tragedy turned comedy becomes yet funnier. There's one state trooper hanging out, and he's keeping the tow guy from taking the Tacoma. Then another shows up, and another. They're all talking to me but they seem a little cagey. Finally trooper #1 comes over and stands before me w/ #2 and #3 behind. He informs me that there's something we need to discuss and he'd prefer to be direct. I allow that I'm a fan of that approach as well, and to please proceed.

"This trailer" he says, gesturing at the only trailer in the otherwise empty lot, "Has been reported stolen in Montgomery County". I smile. "Oh, This is an easy one. My ~OLD~ trailer, a 14' steel 1988 "Big Tex" brand was stolen from Pittman Drive in Silver Spring last year. This Maine trailer tag had been issued about a week before it was found to be missing. I reported the theft to the Montgomery County PD and it hasn't turned up yet. I bought this trailer in Woodbridge, VA a few months later and it's titled and registered in my name. The tag was transferred. You know, I may have given you the old registration; does the VIN match the stolen one?"

"It does, and this one fits the description perfectly"

"Actually" I say, "This one has a ~plywood~ deck - the other was described as a "wood deck with several newer planks in the center", and the stolen one had ""2 pipes" on the front of the deck and a winch. If you'll check the VIN plate you'll see. Or I probably have the new registration in my messenger bag"...

"Sit on the front of the car, sir. I'll be back."

Eventually he comes back to inform me that "My story checked out" I offer that it was in fact, fact. We heave all my crap in Danny's truck, I drop him back at his office, and finally head to Summit Point, the whole clusterberkeley having added only 3 hours to the trip.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/7/13 12:48 p.m.

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/200x-classifieds/car-hauler-needs-head-gasket-1600-eastern-ct/71955/page1/

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/7/13 12:49 p.m.

Jeebus dude. That is a pretty epic story. really glad everything turned out okay in the end.

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk SuperDork
10/7/13 12:50 p.m.

Well, that sucks. If the truck was insured , then it's all a good story for the future over beers. No one got hurt, the race car appears fine, you can get another truck, the sun comes up tomorrow, life goes on. It could have turned out a whole lot worse.

Hungary Bill
Hungary Bill GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
10/7/13 12:51 p.m.

ow man! I'm glad you're ok.

How'd the car fare on the trailer?

oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy Dork
10/7/13 12:58 p.m.

with my luck the cops would have tossed me in jail because they were too lazy to research the trailer fiasco...

glad no one was hurt....

motomoron
motomoron Dork
10/7/13 1:02 p.m.

Truck is well insured, car is fine, went well all weekend, and is intact and in the garage for the winter.

I want to do the tow vehicle/utility vehicle thing right, and once. I had use of a V8 Tundra Fri-Sat and on Sunday a E350 7.3 diesel passenger van w/ a 4" pipe, chip, and various other heavy duty things done to it.

It was getting 15-17 mpg at 70 mph on cruise, loaded and towing my race stuff.

I'm about certain I want a van rather than a pickup w/ a cap. I'd like to carry a motorcycle w/o removing a cap, and the ease of access to all the race gear at the track was very nice.

  • New Ram (Fiat Ducato) van in diesel? I love manual transmissions...except for towing. The diesel option is manual only for 2014. Also, expensive, FWD. I like RWD.

  • Used 146", low roof Benz Sprinter. This seems to check all the boxes. Right size, diesel, automatic, RWD. Hard to find the perfect one, but I have time.

  • E350 7.3 passenger van? I know I like these.

  • A friend is selling an '04 Chevy Express 5.3 V8 AWD van w/ side doors both sides. The insurance check would cover it, but I want to solve this problem right, not right now.

Discuss.

Driven5
Driven5 Reader
10/7/13 1:04 p.m.

So you hit the RV trailer hard enough to kill the Tacoma, but left no visible damage on the trailer itself? Impressive.

Also, congrats on the wins/championship!

szeis4cookie
szeis4cookie Reader
10/7/13 1:06 p.m.

If new is an option, shouldn't the big Transit be hitting dealers relatively soon?

motomoron
motomoron Dork
10/7/13 1:10 p.m.
Driven5 wrote: So you hit the RV trailer hard enough to kill the Tacoma, but left no visible damage on the trailer itself? Impressive. Also, congrats on the wins/championship!

On the basis of my limited but rigorous empirical study, I can state with confidence that a travel trailer is among the finest things to stuff a mid-size pickup containing 500 pounds of gear and being pushed along by 2000 pounds of trailer, into.

A big comfy pillow, it was.

(And the back end was messed up, but it sort of sprung back)

motomoron
motomoron Dork
10/7/13 1:11 p.m.
szeis4cookie wrote: If new is an option, shouldn't the big Transit be hitting dealers relatively soon?

Has diesel? I'll look now!

motomoron
motomoron Dork
10/7/13 1:17 p.m.

Can y'all tell I'm furloughed and avoiding moving the race trailer in the rain today?

So - that Transit is available in 130" wb, low roof, 3.2 diesel. I am excite.

Vigo
Vigo UberDork
10/7/13 2:05 p.m.
Also ... FWD. I like RWD.

FWD cargo vans are the best thing ever because floor height. Just wanted to add that.

Not sure what advantage RWD offers on a vehicle that cant really spin its tires and has terrible weight distribution for handling anyway, like that Tacoma, or a new Transit.

alfadriver
alfadriver PowerDork
10/7/13 2:37 p.m.
szeis4cookie wrote: If new is an option, shouldn't the big Transit be hitting dealers relatively soon?

Based on the state of them running around here- I would say that there a good year or 2 from being at dealers.

The E series will be around for a few more years, as far as I know. Sorry- seems like a good solution in the future...

ultraclyde
ultraclyde SuperDork
10/7/13 2:38 p.m.

So...how do biggish FWD diesels handle towing? Anybody towed with one? Any traction issues or general freakiness?

HappyAndy
HappyAndy SuperDork
10/7/13 2:51 p.m.

I thought the big transit was RWD? In fact in the pic a few posts up, I think I can see a rear diff inbetween the back wheels?

Oh, and I'm glad to hear that no one was hurt, and the op didn't have to spend the night in the slammer.

yamaha
yamaha PowerDork
10/7/13 3:03 p.m.

Well, I'd take the temporary option of your friend's 5.3L express van(hopefully he'll cut you a great deal) and then use it to make sure you like the van versus truck, then buy a new transit when they finally arrive.

Andy, the big transit is RWD......evidently the only fwd "big" van is the fiat with manly RAM badges on it.

motomoron
motomoron Dork
10/7/13 3:26 p.m.

I think Yamaha has prognosticated my likely path.

Speaking of Yamahas, I just got a Phantom LiPoly battery for the (seldom ridden) RD400 Daytona. I installed it,opened the door and made a great big, great smelling cloud.

yamaha
yamaha PowerDork
10/7/13 4:06 p.m.

In reply to motomoron:

I am going to be tempted to try to buy the '03 2500XL express I use as a delivery vehicle whenever my company goes to replace it. It has a 6L though.

motomoron
motomoron Dork
10/13/13 9:51 p.m.

The appraiser for Autosource looked at it today, and I just saw the report.

It's a total loss and they valued it at $6450.00, describing it as good condition.

Comparables are all around $9k.

I guess this is when I have to put my dick hat on and start assembling a ton of documentation.

Lancer007
Lancer007 New Reader
10/13/13 11:05 p.m.

I have no experience with them but what about the Nissan NV ?

http://autos.jdpower.com/research/Nissan/NV%20Cargo%20NV2500%20HD/2013/Van/photos.htm

7000 tow rating, should be able to get a bike in the high or standard roof model.

Boost_Crazy
Boost_Crazy New Reader
10/14/13 12:08 a.m.

In reply to motomoron:

Sorry to here about your truck. When my Titan got rear ended, they totaled it. The initial offer was around $10k, I ended up getting over $16k after sending them a stack of ads for comparable trucks.

ransom
ransom GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/14/13 12:13 a.m.

In reply to motomoron:

I'm afraid that seems like the likely thing. I wonder how much of a dent you can make by starting with "I'm about to start assembling an avalanche of documentation. What formats would you prefer?" and see whether understanding that you know it's worth more is enough to get them to want to avoid a protracted bunch of screwing around and provide a more reasonable offer?

wclark
wclark New Reader
10/14/13 7:30 a.m.

In reply to motomoron:

About a year ago my 2002 2500 RAM tow vehicle ECU went insane (meaning it ran like crap and the ECU pointed to everything else being bad (which over the course of a month I replaced...before doing the ECU). during that time I looked for a new tow vehicle that had more room (to let me sleep in it in addition to hauling my junk and 3500 lb trailer/car to races) and got way better than the 8mpg I could get with the RAM while towing (driving without a trailer was only a little better).

I had looked at Sprinters for a few years, and seeing my change that is what I went for. Havent regretted that decision a moment since. WAY better driving experience, hauls all my stuff and gives me a comfortable place to sleep - any time any place - and it gets 16-18 while towing (22-25 with no trailer). I opted for a 2012 144"WB high roof 2500 Crew model, with the extra row of removable seating and side windows in the sliding door and behind the driver which makes it legal in most states to be registered as a passenger vehicle.

We also use it for windsurfing (with a custom rack to carry all our stuff inside) and as a group/family limo (by adding a 3rd row removable seat (seats 8 then).

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/14/13 7:36 a.m.

In reply to wclark:

How about some photos of that Sprinter?

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