I just can't get enough...a few minutes ago the announcers were nice enough to stop announcing lol long enough to allow some great in car camera shots. Ah, just marvelous...
I just can't get enough...a few minutes ago the announcers were nice enough to stop announcing lol long enough to allow some great in car camera shots. Ah, just marvelous...
They were awesome in person too. I didn't realize that they ran E85 till last weekend. I hope to god that it wasn't just a 1 time shot. My new favorite racing series.
Oh for the good old days
Group C,
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then Group A,
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then the Aussie V8supercar series.
V8 muscle, then turbo 4 cylinders making 650 hp, then AWD Godzillas.
Aussie meat heads forced them back to a V8 series after the GTR dominance.
Now we have tube framed cars built to spec.
mad_machine wrote: how has this series not taken off in the US?
Except for a few seasons on Speed no one's had access to it. Now that they are racing over here I'm hoping it will gain some popularity.
mad_machine wrote: how has this series not taken off in the US?
Seems Nascar is gradually trying to morph into this. I wouldn't doubt it if in a couple years they stop doing circle track
kanaric wrote:mad_machine wrote: how has this series not taken off in the US?Seems Nascar is gradually trying to morph into this. I wouldn't doubt it if in a couple years they stop doing circle track
circle tracks are as American as apple pie and baseball.. there is one within easy driving distance of pretty much every town in the country... they aren't going anywhere... NASCAR is including more and more road courses into their lower tier series- the NASCAR K&N series is up on the road coarse in Brainerd pretty soon and the Nationwide series is up to 3 road courses ever year...
Flight Service wrote: Oh what no one gonna make fun of this post like did mine?![]()
Hows this-
Super V8's are becoing like NASCAR. All the cars are pretty much the same, except for the motor. Common chassis, restricted bodies, and engine matching. Maybe because they are more narrow, and sound totally different, they appear to be more interesting. Or perhaps it's the road racing aspect.
But the cars are more or less the same. Just like NASCAR.
Does that work?
I personally don't find it compelling to watch racing where I have to read some kind of symbol on the car to tell them apart. Holden, Nissan, Ford, Mercedes- you need to see the nose or sticker. Sure, they try hard, and slide around a lot. Which I guess is interesting. Cup cars do that on road courses, too.
alfadriver wrote:Flight Service wrote: Oh what no one gonna make fun of this post like did mine?Hows this- Super V8's are becoing like NASCAR. All the cars are pretty much the same, except for the motor. Common chassis, restricted bodies, and engine matching. Maybe because they are more narrow, and sound totally different, they appear to be more interesting. Or perhaps it's the road racing aspect. But the cars are more or less the same. Just like NASCAR. Does that work?![]()
And that's what I read was happening this year, but did you watch the V8 Supercars this last weekend?
They showed underhood and inside of several of the cars and even talked about what made a V8 Supercar and there was a lot of factory body work. As a matter of fact other than the roll cage area they didn't show one bit of tube framing. I don't know what's happening in the Aussie cars, but it's not a COT Nascar change.
In reply to carguy123:
Yes, I saw them, and I also read Racecar Engineering. Even the SuperV8 guys call the COT's. The chassis are all the same, use the same front suspension, use the same independant rear suspension. Interestingly- that IRS is brand new this season.
The cage/platform are the same. The body work really does not look like whatever they pretend to be. Other than the nose, and perhaps some stickers, the cars are hard to tell apart at a glance. And they do reference it as a COT.
The few min of racing I saw was decent, hard driving, and sliding. Just not interesting, since it's a spec series, just like NASCAR.
Oh, and they are brilliant drivers. Just like NASCAR. I'd never be able to do that.
carguy123 wrote: And that's what I read was happening this year, but did you watch the V8 Supercars this last weekend? They showed underhood and inside of several of the cars and even talked about what made a V8 Supercar and there was a lot of factory body work. As a matter of fact other than the roll cage area they didn't show one bit of tube framing. I don't know what's happening in the Aussie cars, but it's not a COT Nascar change.
Holden Commadore
Nissan Altima
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Mercedes E Class
carguy123 wrote: Except for a few seasons on Speed no one's had access to it. Now that they are racing over here I'm hoping it will gain some popularity.
I caught part of the race in Texas yesterday.
It's neat to see tin-tops running with no suspension travel and absurd amounts of negative camber just like the old days, but WOW that track looks horrendously dull. Like someone took a concrete pad and a tanker truck full of paint and painted everything that wasn't a bland course.
Wally wrote:carguy123 wrote: And that's what I read was happening this year, but did you watch the V8 Supercars this last weekend? They showed underhood and inside of several of the cars and even talked about what made a V8 Supercar and there was a lot of factory body work. As a matter of fact other than the roll cage area they didn't show one bit of tube framing. I don't know what's happening in the Aussie cars, but it's not a COT Nascar change.Holden CommadoreNissan Altima
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oh, noes...
they are a full on tube chassis race car that has some factory(ish) sheetmetal tack welded to the chassis to make them look stock(ish). they also have doors that open because they aren't cool enough to use the window to get into their race cars like we do here in America..
starting this year, NASCAR racers use factory provided (but not stock) stampings for all the body panels.... but i think the hoods are carbon fiber...
so, yeah, the V8 Supercars are, like, totally different than the NASCAR racers..
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