msterbeau said:wae said:"VIN Number"
Also, the emoji has no place in a business setting.
Canada disagrees with your stance on emojis...
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/07/world/canada/canada-thumbs-up-emoji-contract.html
That lawsuit pretty much underlines my point. Had the recipient responded with a properly-worded message there would have been no ambiguity about if he meant that he agreed with the terms of the contract versus if he was simply acknowledging receipt.
wae said:msterbeau said:wae said:"VIN Number"
Also, the emoji has no place in a business setting.
Canada disagrees with your stance on emojis...
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/07/world/canada/canada-thumbs-up-emoji-contract.html
That lawsuit pretty much underlines my point. Had the recipient responded with a properly-worded message there would have been no ambiguity about if he meant that he agreed with the terms of the contract versus if he was simply acknowledging receipt.
I agree with you. It's ridiculous to think the thumbs up emoji meant anything other than "I am acknowledging receipt of your last email about the contract".
I just thought of one thing no has mentioned yet. A mispronounced word that drives me nuts. There are others like it that I've heard but this one comes to mind:
Supposebly
Toyman! said:I would bet that the large majority of the general public doesn't care. A slightly smaller majority wouldn't know the purpose of a comma. Hell, half the time I don't know if they should be there or not.
Almost 60% of the US has a reading level below 6th grade. 28% of them haven't read a single book in the last 12 months. As long as they can get a text out to their bae, they could not care less.
Tbf reading doesn't nessecarily translate to good grammar or writing skills. I love reading, although tbh I haven't gotten to do as much as I would want recently and most recently finished reading thru Ernest Hemmingway's works. But I am not a good writer at all and I don't know to much about grammatical rules. Also my spelling is terrible and I often forget to put words into things cause I am thinking way faster then I type.
Design issues that annoy the bejesus out of me:
Branding everything aimed at male consumers with all-caps block letters, graphics suggesting a rusted surface, faux tribal tattoo motifs, skulls, barbed wire, etc. I do not need a beer, deodorant, multivitamin, boot socks, etc., to make me feel as though I am breaking an unjustly convicted buddy out of prison so that we can compete in an underground MMA fight and use the proceeds to build the world's fastest armed airboat that also runs on rattlesnake venom.
Conversely, packaging everything aimed at women in a vaguely hourglass or almond-shaped vessel, branding it with delicate all-lower-case fonts, and worst of all, slathering it with flirty, coy, and/or whimsical copy. Stealing a little of Mrs Monohue's shampoo is undignified enough already without that patronizing nonsense.
Trucks and SUVs with grilles and hoods designed expressly to intimidate, marketed toward people who generally don't need any help with that.
Convertible versions of bloated, wedge-shaped coupes with aggressively sloped beltlines, resulting in a car that looks like an overstuffed high-heeled shoe, with a deck lid that is almost as high as the header rail.
Vaporwave stuff that all looks the same, yet somehow looks nothing at all like the old stuff it's trying to imitate.
Multi-color titles wherein some letters use a color too close to that of the background, so that the sign reads "YA D ALE" rather than "YARD SALE".
Boastfulness in graphics, slogans, ad copy, and probably anything else.
A stock photo of a smiling woman wearing a headset reminding me that I can, if necessary, telephone AA American Pest Control and make an appointment.
A photo of one or more stern-looking people standing at a 3/4 angle to the camera with arms folded to indicate that they are utterly confident in their ability to clear clogged drains, repair a mangled Grand Caravan, restore electrical power following a storm, or defend me against a DUI charge.
YouTube Face.
It's obvious once you know, and this one is more legible than the one that just came to our town, but how many people, like me, drive by wondering WTF does that say?
Re: Gender identification a few pages back. My wife and girl friends are having coffee and pastry at a cafe, waitress stops by "How you guys doing here?"
look, McGuffies! We're not guys.
914Driver said:"How you guys doing here?"
That's just the northern variant of "y'all".
For a gender impartial option, one might choose "youse". 
914Driver said:Re: Gender identification a few pages back. My wife and girl friends are having coffee and pastry at a cafe, waitress stops by "How you guys doing here?"
look, McGuffies! We're not guys.
I grew up to understand "guys" to be gender specific but "you guys" to be gender neutral.
In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :
Dudes as well.
Youse guys!
Peabody said:It's obvious once you know, and this one is more legible than the one that just came to our town, but how many people, like me, drive by wondering WTF does that say?
LOL. I feel this. My wife was certain for a while that this said slut life.
One word group I often see confused is: loose/loosen/lose/loss.
Another is the always popular use of "to" instead of "too." I keep it straight by thinking of "too" as being a form of "also."
A bad/lazy habit that really irks me is people leaving out every. single. period.
Lastly, and while not a mistake, is an abuse in my opinion: adding a question mark to article/thread titles. It originated in tabloid newspapers after they were sued a few times for slander. Now, printing, "Is Trump an Idiot?", can be claimed as "we don't know, we're just asking", knowing full well how it's read. These days, it's used as click bait to increase site traffic. They nearly always lead to shallow subjective discussions that have no answer. Sadly, they're widespread even here, with a recent one being, "Is there any car than no one likes?" Ugh.
In reply to OHSCrifle :
Saw that recently on a truck. I wondered what slut life was.
Annnnnnnd now to throw a bucket of gasoline on the fire.
"Can't get me no satisfaction"
Thankfully song writers ignore grammar.
Peabody said:It's obvious once you know, and this one is more legible than the one that just came to our town, but how many people, like me, drive by wondering WTF does that say?
Corrolary:
If you're going to a show and the ony thing you know about the band is this is their logo, chances are it's going to be a good show.
bludroptop said:914Driver said:"How you guys doing here?"
That's just the northern variant of "y'all".
For a gender impartial option, one might choose "youse".
The two yoots.
DarkMonohue said:Design issues that annoy the bejesus out of me:
Branding everything aimed at male consumers with all-caps block letters, graphics suggesting a rusted surface, faux tribal tattoo motifs, skulls, barbed wire, etc. I do not need a beer, deodorant, multivitamin, boot socks, etc., to make me feel as though I am breaking an unjustly convicted buddy out of prison so that we can compete in an underground MMA fight and use the proceeds to build the world's fastest armed airboat that also runs on rattlesnake venom.
Conversely, packaging everything aimed at women in a vaguely hourglass or almond-shaped vessel, branding it with delicate all-lower-case fonts, and worst of all, slathering it with flirty, coy, and/or whimsical copy. Stealing a little of Mrs Monohue's shampoo is undignified enough already without that patronizing nonsense.
Trucks and SUVs with grilles and hoods designed expressly to intimidate, marketed toward people who generally don't need any help with that.
Convertible versions of bloated, wedge-shaped coupes with aggressively sloped beltlines, resulting in a car that looks like an overstuffed high-heeled shoe, with a deck lid that is almost as high as the header rail.
Vaporwave stuff that all looks the same, yet somehow looks nothing at all like the old stuff it's trying to imitate.
Multi-color titles wherein some letters use a color too close to that of the background, so that the sign reads "YA D ALE" rather than "YARD SALE".
Boastfulness in graphics, slogans, ad copy, and probably anything else.
A stock photo of a smiling woman wearing a headset reminding me that I can, if necessary, telephone AA American Pest Control and make an appointment.
A photo of one or more stern-looking people standing at a 3/4 angle to the camera with arms folded to indicate that they are utterly confident in their ability to clear clogged drains, repair a mangled Grand Caravan, restore electrical power following a storm, or defend me against a DUI charge.
YouTube Face.
Branding... I HATE when companies brand parts with their gaudy corporate colors and only their gaudy corporate colors, with no relatively neutral options, free from giant logos. I will likely never run KW dampers because I will never want purple and yellow dampers on my car.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:914Driver said:Re: Gender identification a few pages back. My wife and girl friends are having coffee and pastry at a cafe, waitress stops by "How you guys doing here?"
look, McGuffies! We're not guys.
I grew up to understand "guys" to be gender specific but "you guys" to be gender neutral.
Agreed, my fiance even uses "hey you guys" when like making food, drinks, etc. I find myself using it at work and then go "E36 M3, am I going to offend someone?"
Thankfully the group I work with isn't concerned about stuff like that.
In reply to JG Pasterjak :
i think i see an A on the left side and an e on the right. please tell me (1) the band name and (2) if the name is actually spelled out in that logo.
z31maniac said:Agreed, my fiance even uses "hey you guys" when like making food, drinks, etc. I find myself using it at work and then go "E36 M3, am I going to offend someone?"
Thankfully the group I work with isn't concerned about stuff like that.
I just trained myself to use "folks" instead of "guys". It's neutral and not hard to make a habit.
In reply to msterbeau :
I'm with you as far as more visible items go. Clothing is a good example. I still don't understand the appeal of wearing a shirt that uses the name of the store you bought it from as a primary design feature. Gaudy dampers are a pretty low concern to me, largely because I'm unlikely to see much of them unless something has gone very wrong.
As for the use of "guys", I often hear women address groups of other women as "you guys", but I still avoid saying it because it sounds wrong. On the other hand, addressing them as "ladies" sounds patronizing and sleazy, unless they are several years older than I am.
"Y'all" seems to work, even on the west coast.
i just read the description for a job in which i was greatly interested, until i got to the line where the ideal candidate will be "results orientated." aw hell naw!
In reply to AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) :
"Results Oriented" does seem to be code word for we want to work the hell out of you in an extremely high pressure environment; regardless of whether or not you are the high producer 90 weeks in a row, if you slip for one week we'll dump you.
In reply to Tom1200 :
results oriented is fine. but results orientated is a totally different thing.
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