Nothing wrong with a 69 Z-28 or a 60 Boss/Mach I Mustang.
But I'm an idiot because I like the boat tailed Riveria, as well as most of the earlier ones. When I retire and start pimping, I'm going to get me a Riveria.
The one vehicle I feel really fits your orignal post is the 4runner. They get bigger and more girly with each succesive model. And toyota is doing the same thing with the Hylander.
T.J.
SuperDork
3/17/11 9:15 a.m.
Bugeye Sprites >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spridgets
I really like the differences in early Minis (Mk1) versus all others. (Don't get me started on Mini vs. MINI)
I like Chevy II Novas >>>> later Novas.
I even like the first gen Fit way more than the current one.
On the other hand the Genesis coupe is way better than the tiburon.
1st gen to 2nd gen Celicas
3rd gen to 4th gen Celicas
Mk II Supras to Mk IIIs
'98 Mustangs to '99s (I know I'm in the minority on this one, don't care)
Last generation Outback to current (talk about serious bloat).
2003ish Legacy Wagon to any wagon made afterwards.
F430 to F458.
Tiburon to Genesis Coupe (the tiburon may suck as a car, but it looks SO MUCH better than a GC)
G35 to G37.
AE92 Corolla to anything afterwards
S13 to S14
C2 Corvette to C3.
The 69 Camaro was so cool they made it for a year and a half. (Hence the 70 1/2 Camaros.)
In reply to ReverendDexter:
Id go back to the TE72 or AE86 to start that list for the corolla...
4cylndrfury wrote:
In reply to ReverendDexter:
Id go back to the TE72 or AE86 to start that list for the corolla...
Aesthetically I really like the AE92. It kept very similar lines to the AE86 coupe, just cleaned up a bit. It's like a much-better looking B13 Sentra.
Except for the mid-year 'Vettes, i think the C6 Z06 is the best looking Corvette ever. It's the only one I've ever really wanted. I also think the last Supra was the best by far.
Personally, I think sports cars in general run a certain path. They start out fairly lean, then get softer as the age group that buys them gets "softer", then they go back to their roots to attract newer buyers. Think 240Z, 280ZX, various 300Zx's, and now the 350 and 370.
Corvettes, the same, Miatas...well lets hope they back to their roots for the next one. I can't stand the current model. Even the M3 to a certain extent follow this pattern.
+1 You can get reproduction bodies for the '69 Camaro and Mustang. I have yet to see any other year's bodies made (well, other than '32 Fords and 1st-gen Broncos).
having owned and restored a 1970 428 SCJ Mach1... they are total TRASH!! They drive like a truck because they are a truck! I sold mine and moved on to rwd Toyotas after that......
btw... I've also owned a 66 GT-350H, and a 67 GT500
the SCJ may have done a 1/4 in 13.8, but it got only 13 mpg......... on the highway!
my little Corolla can turn 15 sec 1/4s, and it gets 35 mpg on the highway... and besides... the Mustang could NEVER keep up with the Corolla in the twisties
spitfirebill wrote:
But I'm an idiot because I like the boat tailed Riveria, as well as most of the earlier ones. When I retire and start pimping, I'm going to get me a Riveria.
The one vehicle I feel really fits your orignal post is the 4runner. They get bigger and more girly with each succesive model. And toyota is doing the same thing with the Hylander.
I agree on both counts. If I could FIND one of those Riveria's, that is.
integraguy wrote:
The '69 looks like they really didn't have a clue and were just hanging on ...
Really? You think this looks like a car that doesn't have a clue? Wow.
ReverendDexter wrote:
+1 You can get reproduction bodies for the '69 Camaro and Mustang. I have yet to see any other year's bodies made (well, other than '32 Fords and 1st-gen Broncos).
'67 Mustang was the first they made.
oldeskewltoy wrote:
and besides... the Mustang could NEVER keep up with the Corolla in the twisties
Never say never...
Youtube - Harbinger
bravenrace wrote:
integraguy wrote:
The '69 looks like they really didn't have a clue and were just hanging on ...
Really? You think this looks like a car that doesn't have a clue? Wow.
It really doesn't. Is it a clean design? Yes. Is it new or interesting or even timeless? No. It's pretty much a 67 Camaro with some hide-away headlights. This was far more iconic (and sold better month-to-month):
In reply to Javelin:
The '69 shared no body parts with the '68. Hardly a headlight re-design. I like the 70's also. I had a '71 Firebird, but they got really big, heavy and the build quality was actually not as good as the '69's.
We're not talking build quality, performance, or even weight. Just asthetic looks. And on just asthetic looks, the 69 Camaro is a very, very plain design and the 70 was very different and exciting. Seriously, look at them. The 67 and 69 differ very little. They are both a typical "2-box" design with typical styling (horizontal box taillights, full-width grill with single headlights, quarter windows, and full-width bumpers).
Then the 70 pops out with a split front bumper, angled vertical-type grill, quad-like lights, dual round taillights, a contoured rear bumper, fastback body with a straight swage line, no quarter windows, and that flush back glass. It was revolutionary!
The average joe couldn't pick out a 69 Camaro from a 67 or a 65 Mustang Coupe or a 70 Hornet, or any other 2-box pony car.
In reply to ReverendDexter:
ok... I'm not above correcting myself.....
oldeskewltoy wrote: and besides... (similarly prepared) the Mustang could NEVER keep up with the Corolla in the twisties
lets go to Europe..
The Original Golf/Rabbit over all other generations
I will say that BMW did it right with the 3.. each generation has gotten better looking (if you discount the 4 door e90 and go right to the e92 coupe)
The 5 series.. not so much
I had one of these ('88) loved it
then got one of these... still think this is the best looking Accord ever built
I agree the latest gen of most all cars has gotten absolutely terrible ugly.
I don't know if it's the government regs for safety and mileage that push designers to the same body shape or what.
I thought I had seen somewhere that they now have to design the front of the car to minimize an impact to pedestrians.
I don't think we'll ever see a 2200lb car from the factory again, too much "safety" mandated, Lotus notwithstanding.
OldGray320i wrote:
I don't think we'll ever see a 2200lb car from the factory again, too much "safety" mandated, Lotus notwithstanding.
Can't even say that anymore, all five new Lotues designs are downright porky. The new Elise is supposed to be 500-600Lbs heavier!
And yes, the nanny-state is ruining car design. Minimum heights on headlights and bumpers, crash-protection regs, pedestrian impact regs, and even emissions/fuel economy regs are pushing designers more and more into ugly corners.
In reply to Javelin:
Oh, believe me, I've looked at them. I've owned a '68, '69, and the previously mentioned '71 Formula 400. They're all beautiful cars in my eyes. But if you were talking to the Chevy Hot Rod crowd, I'm just saying the the '69 is considered the epitome of the Camaro. It is the car that the new Camaro is styled after. You're and I are both entitled to our own opinions, obviously, but the '69 is considered a much revered body style by most gear heads.