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WillG80
WillG80 GRM+ Memberand Reader
4/16/23 11:33 a.m.

Twin turbo V12 wrapped in all the comfort you can handle. Claims to be in perfect condition  

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
4/16/23 12:42 p.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:
AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) said:

How much will I suffer if I get an '85 Volvo 240 *DIESEL*. That's a VW diesel engine, not the turbo from the 740s.

They had a knack, apparently, for running fine one day and then not starting the next morning because of poor compression.

I was in the dealership when they were new.  I did more internal engine work on the diesels than on the red blocks by a long shot.

My theory...  They were exactly the same internal parts. 4 cyl VW, 5 cyl Audi, 6 cylinder Volvo.  The engines did not last as long as the rest of the Volvo, so they seemed to be junk.  The VW was so trashed by the time the engine failed, that it seemed normal.

The 700 turbodiesel (same engine) was even worse.  Head gasket after head gasket, they kept putting bigger head bolts on, which just made it harder to retorque the head after the head gasket failure.  There was a farmer that made 300,000km on his before the cylinders went so barrel shaped it didn't have enough compression to start.

Garbage.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/16/23 2:50 p.m.

In reply to Streetwiseguy :

I understand the bores were the main reason that the 240s would lose compression, too.

Which is really curious, because it's a 79.5mm bore block shared with the 81mm and 82.5mm bore gasoline blocks, which are basically indestructible (even my 400k mile 82mm bore five that ran the last couple years of its life dragging a dead cylinder had bores that looked almost new) and I have not heard of TDIs having bore issues.

Maybe the six was just too much length for the undoubtedly too small water pump to handle?

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/16/23 5:44 p.m.

TIL where the MANUAL Volvo Diesel transmission came from.

Heh heh heh.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
4/16/23 6:28 p.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

TIL where the MANUAL Volvo Diesel transmission came from.

Heh heh heh.

M46, with a unique bell housing and a sleeve on the pilot stub...

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/16/23 6:38 p.m.

In reply to Streetwiseguy :

I know someone who has one, I did not know where it came from because I thought all 240 Diesels in North America were automatics.

Was hanging out at his place, looked over, exclaimed "Hey, that's an AUDI bellhousing pattern!"

I have two or three five cylinder turbo engines kicking around over here still.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
4/16/23 7:41 p.m.

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

 I've thrown quite a few of those away...

I'd say most of the 240s here were manual trans.  Most of the 700s automatic.  Maybe all...  They used the ZF box, not the Aisan.  I really don't remember a stick 700.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/16/23 8:03 p.m.

In reply to Streetwiseguy :

I spent some time driving a borrowed 740 Turbo wagon, with the 4+OD trans.  Oddly enough, shortly after I had an MGB apart to rebuild its overdrive.  (The first step is removing the engine. "Chunderheaded" is the correct term)

I rather like the setup, to be frank.  The external overdrive that is, not the floorpan layout of the MGB.  And whose bright idea were those bullet connectors?

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
4/16/23 9:06 p.m.

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

My boss, back in the dealership days (Bo Skowronnek, if you want to Google) won the Canadian National rally championship in an open class 242 turbo with 18 pounds of boost and av gas.  He had the overdrive hooked up to operate in 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear.  Twisty bits, 2nd over was his gear of choice.

This is why I snicker at people who have to upgrade the gearbox for their hotrod Volvo.

 

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE SuperDork
4/17/23 11:51 a.m.

1953 Studebaker Commander in Missouri

Originally up for ~$2,000, now $3,850 becuase he likely had a lot of attention angry Don't get mad. Don't get mad.

 

stroker
stroker PowerDork
4/17/23 12:25 p.m.

In reply to GIRTHQUAKE :

$3.8K for a roller in need of floor and trunk pans?  Good luck with that.

AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter)
AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
4/19/23 10:03 p.m.

Definitely some Yes here, but No.

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/20/23 10:22 a.m.

In reply to AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) :

definitely some yes there, for sure.  but only about 25% for me.  and sometimes that's enough.  but not this time.

AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter)
AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
5/3/23 10:17 a.m.

AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter)
AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
5/3/23 3:00 p.m.

And while I'm looking at plywood...

i LOL'd at Plybertruck

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia UberDork
5/3/23 5:54 p.m.
AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) said:

And while I'm looking at plywood...

Neat but I hope the builder told them what glass he designed it for :)

AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter)
AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
5/5/23 1:13 p.m.

96 Previa 4WD SC    with a bad head gasket

Maybe if I sell the Scirocco and G30 van. ...No.

AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter)
AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
5/11/23 10:56 p.m.

If....  No.

preach (dudeist priest)
preach (dudeist priest) GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/12/23 6:43 a.m.
AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) said:

If....  No.

I need that with a stainless interior, a turbo LS and on bags for my hot sauce endeavour.

AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter)
AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
6/11/23 11:49 a.m.

If there weren't currently Seven Boxsters in the driveway (and one in the garage)...

I should probably hold out for a red one even though it's hard to find these up for sale at all and this looks like a good one.

docwyte
docwyte PowerDork
6/11/23 5:49 p.m.

I can help you with that, the Boxster SE would look great in my garage, lol!

AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter)
AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
6/19/23 9:16 p.m.

I want that eagle statue.  But... someone could make a fun Challenge car here.

AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter)
AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
7/9/23 2:30 p.m.

This is cool and the seller seems legit. On FB Market for 6 weeks though? Probably gone already.

Me? Two disassembled BMW airheads in the garage, a Boxster waiting to be pushed back in to finish an engine swap, six(?) project cars in line after that.  ...I just want to message him to see if it's available still.

classicJackets (FS)
classicJackets (FS) SuperDork
7/9/23 4:58 p.m.

Sigh..

 

 

 

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