thats a giant bag of awesomeness
thats a giant bag of awesomeness
I want to know more about the front roll bar. . (the watts link looking thing in the front). The way it looks like it works, it just resists all roll. This is not the best, so I'm thinking there is something more to it than that. The way It appears the only way it could work and allow roll is if the crank in the middle moves side to side during cornering. The bracket it is attached to has quite a few bolts in it, so it's possible that this is the case. Anyone have more pictures or insight to a anti roll bar linkage like that?
Where?
In reply to nocones:
That is a pretty standard setup of an anti-roll bar on a pushrod setup. If you look at Formula SAE, you will see several setups like that.
In reply to pinchvalve:
Look at the second picture in the original post. It is connected to the bellcranks.
nocones wrote: I want to know more about the front roll bar. . (the watts link looking thing in the front). The way it looks like it works, it just resists all roll. This is not the best, so I'm thinking there is something more to it than that. The way It appears the only way it could work and allow roll is if the crank in the middle moves side to side during cornering. The bracket it is attached to has quite a few bolts in it, so it's possible that this is the case. Anyone have more pictures or insight to a anti roll bar linkage like that?
looks like instead of adding another spring (bar) it just uses the inside corner's spring against the upward motion of the outside's. looks a lot lighter and you wouldnt have an ugly swaybar hanging off the bottom of the suspension
There hasn't been a pure 32 since John Milner was killed. And even his 32 wasn't proportioned right. There is nothing wrong on a 32 because everything's been done to a 32. I see nothing wrong with that car.
I love the car and I love that you guys do too. Not too many snobs around here are there?
Ahh, I see. In one wheel bump it actually tries to pull the other wheel off the ground. Or put another way during cornering it doesn't allow the other wheel to droop. Basically it transfers all the load to the outside tire. It allows for no roll. I really thought it was more exotic than that. It sounds less than Ideal. We were going to use it on our FSAE car, but we had tested that that type of ARB and did not like the way it made the front end very suseptable to straight line instability. I'm fairly certian formula fords use that type of ARB so obviously it can be made fast. I thought maybe this guy had done something new and different. I mean with that particular thing, the car is amazing, I just was wondering about the ARB.
GPDren wrote: I love the car and I love that you guys do too. Not too many snobs around here are there?
You must be new here. Lets see... Off the top of my head, I can think of people here who put a diesel in a miata, a subaru engine in a porsche, a rotary in a spitfire, a SBC in an E30.... the list goes on.
I'll amend that to "SBC in an anything."
Volvo is part of Ford, for now atleast, so it is still "in family"
I approve
I wondered why the volvo, then I saw Sweden. Oh. I love this kind of thing. I've dreamed of building a lightweight fiberglass highboy 32 with an sr20det or stook drivetrain. Then hoon it to maximum effect.
neon4891 wrote: Volvo is part of Ford, for now atleast, so it is still "in family" I approve
The swap done the other way - ford powerplant into a volvo body - works too. Don't forget how fun Greg's volvo station wagon with the mustang drivetrain is.
Want one, badly. What's cool is that the second car pictured, if I remember, is actually a Volvo anyway!
nocones wrote: Ahh, I see. In one wheel bump it actually tries to pull the other wheel off the ground. Or put another way during cornering it doesn't allow the other wheel to droop. Basically it transfers all the load to the outside tire. It allows for no roll. I really thought it was more exotic than that. It sounds less than Ideal. We were going to use it on our FSAE car, but we had tested that that type of ARB and did not like the way it made the front end very suseptable to straight line instability. I'm fairly certian formula fords use that type of ARB so obviously it can be made fast. I thought maybe this guy had done something new and different. I mean with that particular thing, the car is amazing, I just was wondering about the ARB.
Looks like it would work like a regular ARB would, both solutions try to correct the body roll by pulling upwards on the inside wheel in a corner. The difference is that on the car here and other cars as describer, it is a solid link versus a solution with a specific spring rate applied to it.
purists suck
mtn wrote:GPDren wrote: I love the car and I love that you guys do too. Not too many snobs around here are there?You must be new here. Lets see... Off the top of my head, I can think of people here who put a diesel in a miata, a subaru engine in a porsche, a rotary in a spitfire, a SBC in an E30.... the list goes on.
Ive been involved in 2 out of 4. 
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