redhookfern
redhookfern Reader
9/23/15 3:02 p.m.

We're making a cross country journey late this fall and will ultimately need to clear a few passes along our route. Being late in the season (end of October) I am going to assume we may encounter snow. Here's the thing - we have an SUV, but here's the other thing - it sucks in any sort of deep snow. It's a 2014 Trailhawk Cherokee and despite it's 4,012 4WD settings, and locking this and that, it still got completely stuck in a parking lot with a foot or so of snow because it was wet, heavy snow that basically packed itself into the deep treads of the tires that the truck came with.

To be safe, I was thinking about chains but I haven't even seen chains used since the 1980's on my mom's Buick Electra wagon, and even then they opted for studded rears instead.

Where's a good place to buy these? Are certain types better than others? I see some are more like cables instead of actual chain. I'm hoping we won't need them, but better to be safe than a frozen dinner for a bear family.

irish44j
irish44j PowerDork
9/23/15 4:12 p.m.

It sounds to me like your tires suck if a Cherokee is getting stuck in a foot of snow, regardless of what kind of snow. No reason any 4WD should get stuck in any kind of snow that is not high-centering it, frankly. Get a set of tires that are "snowflake on the mountain" rated (many all-terrains are). OEM tires tend to be terrible at everything anyhow.

Sorry, I know nothing about chains/cables.....

petegossett
petegossett GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
9/23/15 4:16 p.m.

In reply to irish44j:

General Grabber AT-2

trucke
trucke Dork
9/23/15 4:21 p.m.

You can order them from any auto parts store. Just need your tire size for fitment. Be aware they have a limited speed of about 20 mph. Never run them on pavement, they will fail quickly.

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RX8driver
RX8driver New Reader
9/23/15 4:31 p.m.

Chains are more for ice than snow. I wouldn't expect much of a benefit in wet snow and a foot of wet, heavy snow will stop most vehicles.

irish44j
irish44j PowerDork
9/23/15 4:47 p.m.
petegossett wrote: In reply to irish44j: General Grabber AT-2

Some Grabber AT2 are rated for snow, some are not. Look on the tire itself and see if you see the snowflake on the mountain logo. It actually makes a substantial difference. Lots of tires that are good for off-roading are actually lousy in snow....

Ex: The BFG A/T KO that I had on the Cherokee were dreadful in snow. As were the stock Dunlop AT2s that came on our 4Runner (they were even worse, if that's possible). Meanwhile, the snow-rated Bridgestone Dueller Revo2's we had on the 4Runner (and Sequoia) are awesome in the same depth/type of snow. It's all about the rubber compounds and the siping.

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic UltimaDork
9/23/15 5:45 p.m.

Tires>chains, You can probably get $100-$150 out of the take offs. As mentioned the various all season all terrain tires with the RMA snowflake/mountain stamp are all great. Firestone Destination LE2 comes to mind as well, doesn't have the stamp, but they do pretty good in winter and come in a lot of P metric sizes (rides better than a LT), and are very affordable.

bearmtnmartin
bearmtnmartin GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/23/15 7:59 p.m.

Just get some cables. They are cheap and simple. You can also haul ass on them if you want. If the cables won't get you there it's time to get a hotel.

pilotbraden
pilotbraden SuperDork
9/24/15 1:30 p.m.

http://www.tirechain.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwvo6wBRCG3Zv92ZSLlIYBEiQA5PLVAqmtdFNDDm_5n7ICngn9YfhkLDMAB9hczyGAjnzNxGIaAiD28P8HAQ

This is where I buy mine. I have a set of four for 33x12.50 tires and a set of four for 31x10.50 tires. They make my trucks unstoppable. I can stop in snow up to the base of the headlights and get it going again without spinning the tires or slipping the clutch

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