My understanding of the Tesla is the limitation is less the recharges required to cover the transits, but more that you'd have to really soft-pedal the thing during the 3 consecutive timed laps in order to avoid overheating the battery pack.
The 15 lbs/hp suggestion is based on some analysis of entered competitors from about 2009 to 2016, including my Fit (~21 lbs/hp), my miata (~18 lbs/hp), and my MINI (~15.5 lbs/hp). The Acura and the HHR's run around 13.5 lbs/hp. It's about enough power to overcome some "oopses" in corner entry. I'm still working on generating a tire width, track average, and height comparison parameter to proxy handling.
These are all calculated from curb weight, and don't include driver weight.
The P71 seems to come out around 16 lbs/hp... although it's not clear how much weight is/can-be taken out after de-servicing, along with how much "cheap power" is available.
Perhaps Bob can chime in with better insight, but my understanding is that the autocross courses usually built for OneLap tend to be "bigger" than normal SCCA courses. So, there's a bit more lee-way to running a "big car" for OneLap than national level autocross.
I'll bet if you got Tesla involved, some of these problems might go away.
The one we had two last year on the go kart track at Road America was absolutely a small car course. If it didn't have that hill the results would have looked even weirder.
This year's course was a big car course. A couple of tight elements, but big acceleration/braking zones.
If you want to win a trophy the economy/alternative fuel/truck-suv are the places to play.
I posted before about building a truck, which I still want to do, but life has backburnered that idea for a bit. I think sleepyhead is a bit pessimistic on power. 10lbs/hp is about the bottom of where I want to play once a car is developed.
hhaase
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5/15/17 9:25 p.m.
Not optimal by any means, But I've been prepping my mk1 MR2 for running next year. Vintage foreign seems to be a very lightly populated class, but I bet I'll still be the slowest with the biggest smile.
Unless finances suddenly fall apart or something else big comes around to bite me, I'll be there. May need a co/transit driver though.
I can tell you that the autox course we set up at grissom is typically a little more open with a couple "gotcha" sections. We know what you guys are doing, we know that your tires need to last 6 more days and we don't want to eat up too much on the abrasive concrete.
With that said, it's about the same as what we do for the CAM challenge in that regards. A little more open, a little more fun and a little more options to be sideways.
mazdeuce wrote:
The one we had two last year on the go kart track at Road America was absolutely a small car course. If it didn't have that hill the results would have looked even weirder.
This year's course was a big car course. A couple of tight elements, but big acceleration/braking zones.
If you want to win a trophy the economy/alternative fuel/truck-suv are the places to play.
I posted before about building a truck, which I still want to do, but life has backburnered that idea for a bit. I think sleepyhead is a bit pessimistic on power. 10lbs/hp is about the bottom of where I want to play once a car is developed.
So what I just read is I have a track driver for my truck for 2019?
Keith Tanner wrote:
I'll bet if you got Tesla involved, some of these problems might go away.
Yeah, I think you'd have to get them involved. I'm assuming you'd be leaving each track with a dead (or nearly dead) battery. You'd need enough juice to get you to the next charging station.
The GT-R is compelling: fast, comfortable and good in the wet. It is a big, heavy car, though. V8 Lexus sedan or some sort?
Ian F
MegaDork
5/16/17 1:52 p.m.
In reply to David S. Wallens:
It might be a way for Tesla to promote/expand the fast-charging network...
Cost no object: Ferrari GTC4Lusso. Classic(ish): 1995 Corvette ZR1. Project: LS-powered GMC Syclone clone. Just for fun: Skyline R32.
JeffHarbert wrote:
Cost no object: Ferrari GTC4Lusso. Classic(ish): 1995 Corvette ZR1. Project: LS-powered GMC Syclone clone. Just for fun: Skyline R32.
How 'bout a '91??
re:Rental Camaro.
Make sure to change the pads. Had someone do that for a test at Dominion before OneLap, and was down to metal-on-metal by 2pm. Good thing they got the damage waiver.
re:V8 Lexus.
I thought their fundamental problem was an inability to put power down to more than one wheel at a time?
With all the standing starts, anything not putting power to at least two wheels is going to be at a disadvantage (part of the major advantage GTR's have at OneLap).
hhaase wrote:
Not optimal by any means, But I've been prepping my mk1 MR2 for running next year. Vintage foreign seems to be a very lightly populated class, but I bet I'll still be the slowest with the biggest smile.
Unless finances suddenly fall apart or something else big comes around to bite me, I'll be there. May need a co/transit driver though.
Hmmm, I've been wanting to run and there isn't a bolt on a MK1 MR2 that I haven't replaced at some point.
After another great year. We all talk about what to bring next year even before the event is completed. Yes this event is about the cars performance. But its also about the people and the adventure. I didn't even know I was a Co-driver until 1:30 pm on Weds. Wow you say. Try riding around the country with a perfect stranger that I now call a Great Friend. Having competed in the event 6 times in two different c-5 corvettes, Firebird, Citation X-11 and this yr a Pontiac G8 that morphed in a Chevy SS after Atlanta. Crap the Griswalds Ford wagon is at the total other end of the performance spectrum and you know what. Those 4 guys had a smile on their face on Sat in South Bend!!! To me that is all you can ask for. Enter something instead sitting around saying I wont win. I personally would like to enter the SUV class with a 2wd Tahoe PPV with a nasty sounding motor and lots of Aero!!!!
Here's another part of the question. Full cage, roll bar or just rely on the factory crash protection?
Easy, the new Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo Turbo. A stupidly fast, stupidly comfortable AWD wagon sounds perfect.