secretariata (Forum Supporter)
secretariata (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/29/20 10:42 p.m.

I need to get a full-size extended cab truck & prefer a 4x4 for those occasions when it is useful.  Mainly looking at Nissan Titans & Toyota Tundras. There are a few Tundras listed locally that look good but need motors.  Ads don't specify if they have the 4.7 or the 5.7 V-8.  What is a reasonable price for a JY or other used Toyota V-8?  Any special/unusual/extra pricey things to be aware of if replacing?

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
8/29/20 11:29 p.m.

It's rare that those need engines.  I'd worry about the rest of the truck if they need a replacement engine. 

WillG80
WillG80 GRM+ Memberand New Reader
8/29/20 11:35 p.m.

^^^same

 

Is the 4.7 an interference engine? Broken timing belts could be the reason those need engines. 

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UberDork
8/30/20 2:58 a.m.

I've never known of those as needing an engine. Frames, on the other hand...

 

barefootskater
barefootskater UltraDork
8/30/20 10:29 a.m.

In my 4 years at Toyota we replaced all the different engines at a rate I found alarming (most were run out of oil, consumption issues). There were people still paying dealer prices to replace 22re's! Except the V8s. Never replaced one of those. I'd be very wary of a truck that needed a new engine.  
As far as I know, all Toyota engines with timing belts (at least the recent stuff) are non interference. Doesn't mean a broken belt can't kill an engine though. 
Unless the truck in need of an engine is in really good shape, and 3-5k cheaper than a running example, I'd pass. 

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/30/20 11:03 a.m.

The 2UZ is a non interference engine

secretariata (Forum Supporter)
secretariata (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/30/20 6:40 p.m.

Haven't actually looked at them, photos look OK, but no interior pics.  3 2007-2008 model Tundra extended cab 4x4s in the $3500-$4500 range with 250k-300k miles and state bad motor.  Similar mileage with running engines have asking prices of $11000-$14000.  So initial glance seems to be worth the effort, but if I can't find an decent used motor to install then that alters the equation.

Carbon (Forum Supporter)
Carbon (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
9/18/20 10:27 p.m.

I want to put a 5.7 in my gx460. Not much info ou there as to what that swap would entail. 

OHSCrifle
OHSCrifle GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/19/20 6:18 a.m.
m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand UberDork
9/19/20 7:56 a.m.
MrChaos said:

The 2UZ is a non interference engine

Early 2UZ is non-interference.  All truck 4.7 are interference

 

Vigo (Forum Supporter)
Vigo (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/19/20 9:26 a.m.

If i just think about how much a 4.7 and 5.7 should  be worth im thinking ~1200 and ~2k, but ive never looked and maybe they enjoy the same benefit as Prius engines, which never break and have no demand for whatever supply there is, so are actually unusually cheap? 

I was just looking at local T100s on FB like 2 days ago. Why? Because the 4.7 exists and i like it..

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/19/20 11:19 a.m.

A lot of new-vehicle owners have the mentality of, if you need to have to do maintenance or check the oil and stuff, then it's the truck's fault.

 

Also, from reading iATN, a lot of parts hangers have the opinion of if anything over 100k needs any engine work, it's best to just replace the engine.  (Chevy 5.3 has low oil pressure at 160k miles?  Don't bother pulling the oil pan to replace the oil pickup O-ring, the engine is worn out and you're better off putting a reman in)

 

(never mind that every reman engine I have seen is complete, utter garbage)

 

Brett_Murphy (Ex-Patrón)
Brett_Murphy (Ex-Patrón) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/19/20 5:49 p.m.

The 4.7 in my 4Runner has over 300k on it, and usually gets driven from NC to VT once a year. I wouldn't be afraid to drive it across the country tomorrow, I'd just weep for the gas I was putting into it.  

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