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ronholm
ronholm Reader
5/2/12 2:26 p.m.

This car isn't to far above the GRM Challenge Budget..

This dyno pull didn't make as much power as the 2nd pull did..

http://youtu.be/yAL8hJRzztE

Larry is totally awesome BTW..

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
5/2/12 2:30 p.m.

I'm normally the one defending laggy cars against "the haters," but... i hope this thing isn't as peaky as it sounded?

CRAZY car nonetheless!

poopshovel
poopshovel PowerDork
5/2/12 2:49 p.m.

Wicked. WANT.

mndsm
mndsm UberDork
5/2/12 2:51 p.m.

Did that really just happen? It was like it wasn't even trying!

ronholm
ronholm Reader
5/2/12 2:59 p.m.

In reply to 92CelicaHalfTrac:

Look at the Dyno graph at the end of the video.. Do you see anything which looks 'peaky'

The car serves almost daily driven status also BTW...

mndsm
mndsm UberDork
5/2/12 3:01 p.m.

I'm VERY curious as to whether or not there's a detailed build on this. Call it a thought excercise, because i'm totally not thinking of cloning it. Nope.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
5/2/12 3:03 p.m.
ronholm wrote: In reply to 92CelicaHalfTrac: Look at the Dyno graph at the end of the video.. Do you see anything which looks 'peaky' The car serves almost daily driven status also BTW...

Hard to tell with an MPH instead of RPM based graph but... yeah, it looks peaky to me. Assuming that's a 4th gear pull, that's not a ton of meat, but then again, i don't know what RPMs that was, what the gearing really is, yadda yadda yadda.

That all said, once you get up into those numbers using old motors like that, (and that's not a put-down, my daily driver is an old turbo dinosaur as well) it's kindof hard to make them NOT be peaky.

So either way, a job WELL done!!!

ronholm
ronholm Reader
5/2/12 3:11 p.m.

In reply to 92CelicaHalfTrac:

It was a third gear pull.. Using a Supra 5 spd tranny.. and I think he is currently running 3.73 gears (or something close) in the Ford 9 inch rear..

He has a HUGE turbo on there now.. But I sure wouldn't call the car "peaky" Not for a 2.5L engine laying down those kind of numbers.. Seriously.. It pulls harder down low than some 600hp Smallblock V8's I have seen..

Here is his 'build" thread.. But Larry is about as humble and 'shy' as they come.

http://www.turbododge.com/forums/f11/f68/130944-few-pics-my-rwd-conversion-parts.html

Raze
Raze SuperDork
5/2/12 3:49 p.m.

nice HE341, bigger compressor cousin to my Hy35...

and NICE pull...

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 SuperDork
5/2/12 3:51 p.m.

Whoa! That's nuts.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/2/12 3:53 p.m.

RWD conversion!!??! And then those numbers?! Niiiiiiice!!!

Conquest351
Conquest351 Dork
5/2/12 4:08 p.m.

I think I'm in love... Watched the whole thing with my mouth wide open. First thing I said was, "Wait, weren't those FWD?" LOL

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 Dork
5/2/12 6:19 p.m.

I too, was wondering why the rear wheels were turning. Then it's an SRT4 engine mated to a supra trans with a 9 inch in the rear? Whaaaa?

I continue to be amazed at the amount of work some will put into what most consider a E36 M3box devoid of anything that could remotely be considered cool.

It's pretty berkeleying fantastic though.

ronholm
ronholm Reader
5/2/12 6:40 p.m.
Teh E36 M3 wrote: . Then it's an SRT4 engine

Kinda... Not really..

Old School Turbo Mopar 2.2/2.5 short block running 2.5 crank..

2.0 DOHC head from a plain jane PT cruiser.. the bore spacing is the same.. Head bolts line up.. Coolant passages all work.. Just need to plug some holes and feed and drain oil to the head externally.

Then Geo Metro cam gears redrilled to fit the Mopar cams..

yada yada yada...

Bellhousing is a Dakota 4clyinder part.. Bolts right to the 'common block' 2.2/2.5 and to the Supra tranny without modification.

ronholm
ronholm Reader
5/2/12 6:46 p.m.

Here... Lets make pictures easier to see for ya'll

These are last year..

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/2/12 6:58 p.m.

Great googily moogily that car is awesome!

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade Dork
5/2/12 6:58 p.m.

That's evil. Still a nice looking car, too. That'd be a bunch of fun at the drag strip.

ScottRA21
ScottRA21 Reader
5/2/12 7:46 p.m.

I think this completely claims the "Best Sleeper" title so far as I have seen this year.

Vigo
Vigo SuperDork
5/3/12 7:13 a.m.

Car ran mid 11s when it had less power, iirc.

Not sure how hard he wants to try but i think he has power for high 9s given the weight. The FWD guys run mid-low 10s @ ~450whp.

As for it being peaky, yeah it would be nice if they showed rpm, but i think that impression is just a factor of them stopping the pull at only 6000 rpms. If that was a 4th gear pull, hes making full power between 60-70 mph which is probably 3-4k in 4th. If he revved it to 7500 (possible to do, certainly) it wouldnt seem peaky at all.

Sky_Render
Sky_Render Reader
5/3/12 7:34 a.m.

I miss my old turbocharged Sundance Duster, even if it was FWD.

RossD
RossD UltraDork
5/3/12 7:41 a.m.

I love it when parts from different car manufactures work together. E36 M3's great.

Moparman
Moparman HalfDork
5/3/12 8:20 a.m.

In reply to ronholm:

In the arly 90s I had a 2.2 litre 1987 Dakota. I always wanted to turbo it, but neve got around to it. I love the idea of the 2.0 DOHC head. I remember in the 1990s when I told a Neon list that our (I own a 1999 Neon) engine is a descendent of the 2.2/2.5, the youngins wanted me lynched. Did the coolant passages all line up as well?

2002maniac
2002maniac HalfDork
5/3/12 8:41 a.m.

nice! I love me some polished turd.

psteav
psteav GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
5/3/12 9:38 a.m.

Hoooooolly E36 M3. I think that tears it. I'm going to yank the 360 in my Duster for a 2.2/2.5 swap.

That is a fantastic car.

Raze
Raze SuperDork
5/3/12 9:42 a.m.

This car just needs a small T3 compounded with the HE341 to pick up the low end OR if he got one of the VGT Holsets and swap the electronic actuator for a wga to open as the boost grows you can get much better curve, it's been done....

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