P3PPY
P3PPY GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/24/20 9:58 p.m.

NOTE: this thread was founded on a false premise. Nothing to see here.

 

I don’t have nice cars. I don’t have or drive new cars. But once a year I get a complimentary BMW loaner car when I get my 17 year old Z4’s oil changed. 

Last year it was an X1, which was super boring to drive but partly because it’s just a sharper knife— I was taking corners in it faster than in the Z4 but it felt uneventful. 

This year it was a twin turbo 320ish hp X5 <<EDIT: no, it was actually a 2021 X3 single turbo, because I do not know how to read>>, fully loaded. Brother, was it SLOW off the line!! I was thoroughly unimpressed. Does anyone really like turbo over super? I’m assuming that up until 3k that hp figure is like half of peak. Lag is lame

dps214
dps214 HalfDork
11/24/20 10:07 p.m.

Internet says peak torque is at 1500rpm, so it's not that. But it also weighs 5000lbs, so it's not like 330hp/tq is an abundance of power.

dabird
dabird Reader
11/24/20 10:18 p.m.

I have a twin turbo 335is 320HP 332 lb-ft of torque  and 370 lb-ft for 7 seconds with overboost function.... It's definitely not slow off the line 

mr2s2000elise
mr2s2000elise UltraDork
11/24/20 11:02 p.m.

Isn't the only x5 worth leasing, the x5m competition ? 
 

0-60 3.7 sec doesn't seem too slow for that twin turbo beast. 
 

Lease, abuse, dump it. 600-617hp that you don't have to maintain gives lots of smiles per miles 
 

P3PPY
P3PPY GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/25/20 7:31 a.m.

Oops! My mistake. I just looked at the VIN and it's a 2021 X3, not 5. xDrive30i. And I don't see any literature that it's 320 hp but there was this nifty little gauge on the dash that showed me the HP I was making or using and it went to 320. I am confused.

Sheesh and I just re-read the engine cover. "TwinPower" Turbo != "twin turbo"

*eyeroll* okay I'm illiterate, don't mind me.

 

But still, there was a dash indicator...

mr2s2000elise
mr2s2000elise UltraDork
11/25/20 8:45 a.m.
P3PPY said:

 just looked at the VIN and it's a 2021 X3, not 5.
 

xDrive30i. 

That has 248-hp turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder under its hood

Olemiss540
Olemiss540 Reader
11/25/20 9:14 a.m.

Wait. You go to the BMW dealer with a 17 YO Z4 for oil changes?!

buzzboy
buzzboy Dork
11/25/20 9:40 a.m.

TwinPower means it's a TwinScroll turbo right? BMW's alpha numeric naming is a relative performance rating not a displacement and I don't like it.

I'm getting 319ti badges for my car....

Cactus
Cactus HalfDork
11/25/20 1:33 p.m.

If you disapprove of BMWs numbers, go back to the 70s. They did fine for a while with the x28i and x30i cars, then they made the x33i and x35i(most) cars that had 3.2 and 3.4L engines. Don't get me started on the 745i. Numbers have long been a normative thing for them, and not necessarily representative of reality.

Aspen
Aspen HalfDork
11/25/20 6:46 p.m.

My 2014  x3 35i is spritely, 14.1 1/4 mile bone stock.  Its zippy around town too, but the height and weight seriously compromise the handling.  The turbo is quite entertaining.

I tested the 4 banger, ok but not thrilling.

P3PPY
P3PPY GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/25/20 7:27 p.m.
Olemiss540 said:

Wait. You go to the BMW dealer with a 17 YO Z4 for oil changes?!

Yeah it’s like $80 just for the oil and supplies for me to do it myself. For an extra $30-40 I get to drive a brand new BMW for the day plus they wash it and clean it out. 

rslifkin
rslifkin UltraDork
11/26/20 11:13 a.m.
Cactus said:

If you disapprove of BMWs numbers, go back to the 70s. They did fine for a while with the x28i and x30i cars, then they made the x33i and x35i(most) cars that had 3.2 and 3.4L engines. Don't get me started on the 745i. Numbers have long been a normative thing for them, and not necessarily representative of reality.

Yup.  If the numbers tracked displacement exactly, they'd have to call my car a 744i instead of a 740i.  And then they called the following generation (with the same size engine) a 745, then later a 750 when it went from 4.4 to 4.8 liters.  And the 5.4 liter V12s were 750s...

Vigo (Forum Supporter)
Vigo (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
11/27/20 9:03 a.m.

Yeah it’s like $80 just for the oil and supplies for me to do it myself. For an extra $30-40 I get to drive a brand new BMW for the day plus they wash it and clean it out. 

When you put it that way..yes 

HundredDollarCar
HundredDollarCar New Reader
11/27/20 9:47 a.m.
Vigo (Forum Supporter) said:

Yeah it’s like $80 just for the oil and supplies for me to do it myself. For an extra $30-40 I get to drive a brand new BMW for the day plus they wash it and clean it out. 

When you put it that way..yes 

An even better value if you avail yourself of the complimentary designer coffee, snacks and fresh fruit at what is temporarily the largest new BMW dealer in the world (on a square footage - not sales - basis).

kb58
kb58 SuperDork
11/27/20 6:49 p.m.
P3PPY said:

... "TwinPower" Turbo != "twin turbo"...

I always get a kick when a bit of C programming language works its way into non-software posts.

mr2s2000elise
mr2s2000elise UltraDork
11/27/20 8:08 p.m.

In reply to HundredDollarCar :

Not to mention the eye candy - at our local Bmw dealer (which is the largest by sales volume ) 

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