flatlander937
flatlander937 GRM+ Memberand Reader
9/15/15 7:54 p.m.

I built my own camber plates for my Mazda2 but frankly I'd love to get something more refined looking.

The mazda2 strut mount is a perfect equilateral triangle, with it measuring 83.6mm from stud to stud(on centers). Or just under 3-5/16in.

Anything else close that has good quality camber plates available? Mazda RX3?

Or anyone know where a database of this info would be available?

Lancer007
Lancer007 Dork
9/16/15 9:07 a.m.

I'm not sure what year you have or what years this info is applicable for but apparently the 2 and the Ford Fiesta share a good number of parts.

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?123808637-Mazda2-Suspension-Parts-vs-Fiesta-s

flatlander937
flatlander937 GRM+ Memberand Reader
9/16/15 9:22 a.m.

Yeah, I'm looking for just a camber plate. That is quality and takes a 5/8 spherical.

Here is my build for reference:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/build-projects-and-project-cars/2011-mazda2-not-so-srs-bzns-stf-build/100748/page1/&ved=0CFUQFjAFahUKEwjk77Dv3_vHAhVDVz4KHWyvDZ0&usg=AFQjCNGFDKNgdNktUfo3i5EvcUUDT4vJCA

It all came out well but wanting lighter and more accurate(done on a CNC mill).

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UberDork
9/16/15 9:23 a.m.

FWIW, what Saturn guys do is laser a different top plate (the one that mates to the strut tower) and pair it with an existing coilover or camber plate setup. It would only cost you like $50 to have 2 plates cut.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
9/19/15 7:06 a.m.
flatlander937 wrote: Or anyone know where a database of this info would be available?

I don't think such a database exists, but you could find a junkyard that lets you walk around and bring a tape measure.

I take it that redrilling the strut tower is not an option?

tr8todd
tr8todd Dork
9/19/15 8:04 a.m.

There are universal camber plates on ebay for less than $100. You pick the shape you want and then drill the three or four mounting holes to match your holes.

flatlander937
flatlander937 GRM+ Memberand Reader
9/19/15 1:30 p.m.

Redrilling the strut tower is not an option.

Building an adapter is a neat idea... May consider that, my concern is eating up up-travel. I could definitely implement this if I decide to rebuild my strut housings(move the strut downwards in relation to the mounting ears) to offset this.

Trolling junkyards I haven't really thought of. Might just do that.

From checking car at work I know E46 and Minis are no good for my needs.

Universal plates all seem to have the camber adjusting bolts sticking above the plate surface. No room for this on a 2.

I'd like to push an easy button to do this ideally. Otherwise I may draw up something to have a machine shop build this winter.

Anyone have E36 and/or E30 measurements available from one stud to another center to center?

tr8todd
tr8todd Dork
9/19/15 3:05 p.m.

They are not going to stick up any more than the top of the shock will.

Burrito
Burrito Dork
9/19/15 4:15 p.m.

I have an E30 strut mount here on my bench. It is not a perfect equilateral triangle. The two measurements are 88mm and 100mm on center, with 8mm studs. The strut bearing has a 14mm ID.

flatlander937
flatlander937 GRM+ Memberand Reader
9/19/15 6:55 p.m.
tr8todd wrote: They are not going to stick up any more than the top of the shock will.

There's about a 1.25in diameter through-hole in the shock tower. The little allen head bolts will hit the shock tower.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UberDork
9/20/15 10:43 a.m.
flatlander937 wrote: Building an adapter is a neat idea... May consider that, my concern is eating up up-travel. I could definitely implement this if I decide to rebuild my strut housings(move the strut downwards in relation to the mounting ears) to offset this.

Don't adapt the top plate of a camber plate to your car. Replace the top plate with one that matches your tower. It won't eat up any additional travel.

RX8driver
RX8driver New Reader
9/20/15 1:19 p.m.

Maybe try emailing some suppliers with your dimensions to see if they've got anything that might fit? Ground Control for instance makes lots of camber plates.

Slippery
Slippery GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/20/15 1:53 p.m.

Draw them up and I will machine them for you. PM me with a drawing, can be hand made.

flatlander937
flatlander937 GRM+ Memberand Reader
9/20/15 4:33 p.m.

In reply to ProDarwin:

Derp

Not sure what I was thinking.

In reply to RX8driver:

I've done this about a year ago. Ground control and Vorshlag didn't want to sell any individual parts, with zero technical help. What they make is properly engineered for what they design and wouldn't risk selling something to be improperly designed by someone and then badmouth their product. Whatever.

In reply to Slippery:

I may take you up on that! I'm going to buy an extra OEM strut mount to send for template/testing reasons. I'll get some detailed pictures of the strut area and stuff to go with it too.

iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
9/20/15 7:05 p.m.

As mentioned earlier, I'm pretty sure the Fiesta mounts will work.

Hell, even the rear axle is the same.

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