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Osterkraut
Osterkraut SuperDork
9/6/11 10:21 p.m.
ProDarwin wrote: E15 is more like 93% They don't sell anything but E10 around here. "Real gas" is not an option, nor is E15 or E85. Last I checked with one of my co-workers (who lives ~50 miles away), the E0 option was >20cents more/gallon... so approx 6% more. Not worth it. Explain to me where to "look it up". Show me a good scientific test that isn't some idiot on a message board saying "my car gets 20% worse mileage!!". The ORNL test in 2008 "Effects of Intermediate Ethanol Blends on Legacy Vehicles and Small Non-Road Engines, Report 1" concluded that: (done with E20)
Fuel economy decreased (7.7% on average), consistent with the energy density reduction associated with ethanol blending (in limited tests, trend was observed to continue to E30).
It also compares E0 to E10 to E15 to E20 (Section 3-3). The reductions in economy are: 3.88, 5.03 and 7.72%. Again, consistent with energy density (actually, slightly better) http://www1.eere.energy.gov/vehiclesandfuels/pdfs/program/int_blends_rpt_1.pdf

Owned with science!

MrJoshua
MrJoshua SuperDork
9/6/11 11:22 p.m.
Osterkraut wrote:
ProDarwin wrote: E15 is more like 93% They don't sell anything but E10 around here. "Real gas" is not an option, nor is E15 or E85. Last I checked with one of my co-workers (who lives ~50 miles away), the E0 option was >20cents more/gallon... so approx 6% more. Not worth it. Explain to me where to "look it up". Show me a good scientific test that isn't some idiot on a message board saying "my car gets 20% worse mileage!!". The ORNL test in 2008 "Effects of Intermediate Ethanol Blends on Legacy Vehicles and Small Non-Road Engines, Report 1" concluded that: (done with E20)
Fuel economy decreased (7.7% on average), consistent with the energy density reduction associated with ethanol blending (in limited tests, trend was observed to continue to E30).
It also compares E0 to E10 to E15 to E20 (Section 3-3). The reductions in economy are: 3.88, 5.03 and 7.72%. Again, consistent with energy density (actually, slightly better) http://www1.eere.energy.gov/vehiclesandfuels/pdfs/program/int_blends_rpt_1.pdf
Owned with science!

That science "Owned" me when I ran out of gas in the mountains of VA at 3 AM with the whole family plus Grandma in the car. Damn PA winter gas!

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