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Tom1200
Tom1200 UberDork
11/4/22 11:30 p.m.

Just looked online and the cheapest tickets are $1600.....0uch

It appears a decent seat is at least $2000.........Laguna Seca IMSA race here I come.

Sad I won't see F1 in my own home town.

L5wolvesf
L5wolvesf Dork
11/4/22 11:45 p.m.

The first years of the Long Beach Grand Prix getting in unticketed was stupid easy. When it became tighter I started working security then flagging. Maybe they will be aware of holes, maybe not so much.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
11/4/22 11:54 p.m.

For that money, fly to Europe and see a race.  Looking up the prices for Monza 2022, the most expensive tickets were 700 Euro, and you could get GA for 65 Euro.  According to Stubhub, they claim to have tickets we had in 2007 for $607.  Seems hard to believe at this point that they are out.

Add in a cheap flight to Milan and a cheap hotel, and you have a great weekend at a historic F1 race.  Or a flight to Brussels and maybe a hotel in Houffalize, Belgium...  Ok, that's what we did in 2007 and 2010 respectively.  

But you notes pretty much confirm why Vegas even is a race.  It's not for real people, especially real race fans.  I'll be well asleep when it starts.

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
11/5/22 12:03 a.m.

Simple - work for F1.  

They give you money to be at the F1 Las Vegas race.  Downside might be living in England the rest of the year along with trouble shooting wiring,  

CAinCA
CAinCA GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/5/22 2:43 p.m.

$2k each? Zoinks!

 

I could have gone to the IndyCar race at Laguna Seca this year. I think it was $130 each plus parking. It's only about 45 minutes from my house. I decided that I'd rather stay home and spend that money on a HDPE instead. 

 

FWIW: I bought a 4 day pass for Rennsport Reunion VII next September: $195.

1SlowVW
1SlowVW Dork
11/5/22 2:50 p.m.
alfadriver said:

For that money, fly to Europe and see a race.  Looking up the prices for Monza 2022, the most expensive tickets were 700 Euro, and you could get GA for 65 Euro.  According to Stubhub, they claim to have tickets we had in 2007 for $607.  Seems hard to believe at this point that they are out.

What is Montreal if not the most European city of North America? Our dollar sucks right now so regardless of ticket prices the exchange will make them cheap.

Kreb (Forum Supporter)
Kreb (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/5/22 3:23 p.m.
alfadriver said:

For that money, fly to Europe and see a race.  Looking up the prices for Monza 2022, the most expensive tickets were 700 Euro, and you could get GA for 65 Euro.  According to Stubhub, they claim to have tickets we had in 2007 for $607.  Seems hard to believe at this point that they are out.

Add in a cheap flight to Milan and a cheap hotel, and you have a great weekend at a historic F1 race.  Or a flight to Brussels and maybe a hotel in Houffalize, Belgium...  Ok, that's what we did in 2007 and 2010 respectively.  

But you notes pretty much confirm why Vegas even is a race.  It's not for real people, especially real race fans.  I'll be well asleep when it starts.

I don't see anything about the Vegas venue that's particularly interesting unless you want to gamble and see a show also. The course looks pretty dull. Meanwhile, the cheapest tickets to the Italian GP at Monza this year were a little over $400. Round-trip flights were running under $600 and a nice Air BandB could be had for well under $200/night. No Brainer to me.

Tom1200
Tom1200 UberDork
11/5/22 3:29 p.m.

In reply to Kreb (Forum Supporter) :

The only reason I was considering tickets was the course is 30 minutes from my house.

If I didn't live I'd never come here. I love living in Vegas; not for Vegas but becuase of all the outdoor things there are to do in Southern Nevada.

Kreb (Forum Supporter)
Kreb (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/5/22 3:38 p.m.

In reply to Tom1200 :

It's surprising how many outdoor people live around there -  climbers, bicycle racers, you name it. My knee-jerk reaction used to be to write it off as wasteland. I was wrong.

That said, other than Monaco, I just don't like city circuits.

Tom1200
Tom1200 UberDork
11/5/22 3:47 p.m.
Kreb (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to Tom1200 :

It's surprising how many outdoor people live around there -  climbers, bicycle racers, you name it. My knee-jerk reaction used to be to write it off as wasteland. I was wrong.

That said, other than Monaco, I just don't like city circuits.

I live about a 1/2 mile from the edge of town; I'm 10 minutes from really nice bicycle trials as well as dirt bike trails.

I'm also 10 minutes from a 50 to 60 miles of scenic byways.

As for the street course.......not a big fan either.

 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/5/22 4:13 p.m.

Vegas F1 really underlines what a deal COTA is. We spent less to go to an F1 weekend there than on NFL tickets in the nosebleed seats. I've got a place to stay in Vegas but it's unlikely I'll be there for race weekend.

I think the Vegas race is going to look spectacular on TV, like a video game. 

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
11/5/22 4:44 p.m.

It's all crazy. 

George Strait + Chris Stapleton is coming to Milwaukee next year. Only $215 single seats left and the rest are $495. A thousand dollars plus for one evening?  

Where are those $14 Rush 2112 tickets?  

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
11/5/22 5:50 p.m.
Datsun310Guy said:

It's all crazy. 

George Strait + Chris Stapleton is coming to Milwaukee next year. Only $215 single seats left and the rest are $495. A thousand dollars plus for one evening?  

Where are those $14 Rush 2112 tickets?  

Yep, we only go to concerts anymore for bands we are BIG fans of (which means we haven't been to a concert in a year). Most of the events we go to now are to see standup comedians at the comedy club downtown. Or if they are a bit bigger, they do one night in a larger theater. 

But even the comedy club tickets are $35-45 each, plus a 2 item minimum. Add in downtown parking, even going to see a comedian is typically a $130 minimum. If we go somewhere decent for dinner before the show, call it $250 for the evening. 

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
11/5/22 5:58 p.m.

In reply to z31maniac :

That's reasonable to me.  $130 isn't bad.   

$250 for two Indy 500 tickets which includes parking is about the max.  I'll never get to go to the Super Bowl.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
11/5/22 6:06 p.m.

In reply to Datsun310Guy :

It's also far less time as well. Openers tend to get 10 minutes, featured act around 15-20, headliner will do 60-75 minutes. But we are big fans of stand up, so it's worth it. We typically go to at least half a dozen comedians per year. 

Tom1200
Tom1200 UberDork
11/6/22 9:13 p.m.

Got a message from someone today, they spent $6600 for three tickets.

Sonic
Sonic UberDork
11/6/22 10:01 p.m.

Several friends and my wife and I were all in for this race, especially as a good friend (Mental) lives in LV so we could stay there.  Then they released the ticket prices.  Even in the pre sale it was $500 for standing room in a small contained area and $2k minimum elsewhere per seat.  Way to cater to the new fan base in the US, or really it is the same money grab that LV is for the rest of life.  
 

So, instead, we are getting awesome seats plus nice hotel at the Canadian GP which is a 7 hour drive and will cost about $2500 all in for the 2 of us.  Much better.  Way to go LV, further cementing your reputation as Mos Eiseley.  

triumph7
triumph7 HalfDork
11/6/22 10:45 p.m.
Keith Tanner said:

Vegas F1 really underlines what a deal COTA is.

Compared to COTA, Indy was a super bargain.  I went to COTA in 2016 after attending all eight races at Indy and found everything, tickets, T-shirts, hats, all of it, to be about 3 times what it was at Indy.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/6/22 10:55 p.m.

In reply to triumph7 :

Maybe, but you can't go to that race anymore :)

I went to COTA last year and got a general admission ticket. I agree that it was relatively inexpensive and Austin is a great town. On the downside, the transit to/from the track from downtown is FUBAR; it took at least 4 hours of logistics every day just to get there and back. The crowd was massive and it really wasn't practical to walk around the track to see different turns; most people just found a spot in the morning and stayed there all day. On qualifying day I tried to walk the track and it took literally all day to see every turn. I took over an hour to get across one bridge to the infield. There were only like 3 support races, so most of the day you're staring at an empty track. Overall, decent weekend but I don't need to do it again and I definitely don't need to spend $5k to do the same thing in Vegas or Miami. 

84FSP
84FSP UberDork
11/7/22 10:38 a.m.

I'm targeting a family trip to Montreal for the F1 next Year as all the US races got too crazy.  Looking forward to poutine and F1!

rob_lewis
rob_lewis UberDork
11/7/22 11:13 a.m.

I'm not surprised ticket prices are that expensive.  Nor am I surprised that room rates are going to be astronomical.  It's a huge event and people will come to it, regardless.  If they had trouble selling tickets, then you could point at it and say, "The prices are too high, lower them and people will come."  I assume they'll sell out.  If I was running an event, that sells out a year before the event happens, I'd be looking to make the most money I can, too.  Sure, the regular F1 fan might not go, but they'll still be fans whether they go or not, so what's the harm. 

Plus, if it does sell out that early, who's to say F1 won't try to find more places for people to go to sell tickets?  I mean, if the demand is that high, I can't imagine they won't.  It's still over a year away......

It's not great.  It means most of us won't go to Vegas to watch the race.  But, they're not catering to me.  If it's a success and F1 continues to thrive in the U.S., then it's probably good for the overall sport, anyway.

-Rob

bmw88rider
bmw88rider GRM+ Memberand UberDork
11/7/22 11:15 a.m.

Overall COTA is a bargain if you include everything. The concerts, the race, etc.

I have a place in LV to stay and can marshal the race but the question is why? You know all of the "extras" will be through the roof cost wise. 

Miami was a mess to get there and expensive even as a marshal not paying for the tickets. And what there was a Porsche cup and a very non competitive W series race. All of the extras were at the hard rock casino and added an insane amount to the bill. 

I've enjoyed marshaling F1 through the years and the 20+ races I've had the pleasure to work but it's just too much with very little in return. Now MotoGP. Yeah sign me up. I enjoy that weekend. 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/7/22 11:23 a.m.

I went to COTA twice - 2014 and 2015, I think. Getting out there was easy enough because we were hangin' with locals. Never paid any attention to the concerts, looks like it was Kid Rock and Elton John those years. The biggest disappointment was the lack of support races, just a 911 bumper car festival. There was supposed to be a historic F1 race in 2015 but they did one contractually obligated lap under yellow due to a massive rainstorm.

I might go to Vegas on F1 weekend just for the mayhem and see if I can make contact with any of my acquaintances that are still in the circus. Probably watch the race on TV, though :)

MotorsportsGordon
MotorsportsGordon Dork
11/7/22 11:45 a.m.

Well they don't really want any of us there or many f1 races are more or less like that. We are the peasants and are supposed to be watching it in tv not around the royalty or elite. Just like brooklands old slogan. The Right Crowd, with No Crowding

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