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turtl631
turtl631 HalfDork
4/15/20 11:46 p.m.

This is pretty cool. Still want to try the manual version.  Thought about this if the M3 does modern BMW failure things and I need a replacement.  Don't know how I feel about DCT in a slower car though.  Anyone rallycross a Veloster N?  

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/16/20 6:31 a.m.

In reply to turtl631 :

way too new to rallycross one. i imagine they will be decent though. they are way too low fir the local regions location and the front bumper would be sacrificial.  

jb229
jb229 New Reader
4/16/20 7:10 a.m.

I'm not sure I'd buy this over the three pedal version, but it'll help them sell a lot more of them in this day and age so I'm all for it.  This is my current most-desired new car (you know, within realistic limits) so anything that means the model won't get dropped anytime soon is good news.

Brett_Murphy (Forum Patrón)
Brett_Murphy (Forum Patrón) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/16/20 10:24 a.m.

Yay, more DCTs.

We need cars to get these if they're going to keep improving. Look how far regular auto transmissions have come.

Brake_L8 (Forum Supporter)
Brake_L8 (Forum Supporter) Reader
4/16/20 7:14 p.m.
OldGray320i (Forum Supporter) said:

 Dude, that's seriously high praise for a car. 

I'm thinking about something new soon (probably not before the madness here ends), and it was going to be an ND or an 86 - but I will add to the list. 

Of course, I might just pick up an old pick up, because GRM cheap,  but, if I go new I'll be driving one of these, too.  

And the blue color scheme on these is the business. 

It deserves all of the praise I and others can throw at it.

I had a ND2 Miata RF in December '19 and just gave back a Toyota 86 Hakone on Tuesday. Those two and the Veloster N are all seriously great to drive. I fit better in the 86 than the Miata (I'm tall and lots of torso) but I think I liked the Miata better, slightly. It's got better shift action vs. the 86. The V-N is fantastic and would be the best "only car" to own given the practicality.

One's a roadster, one's a hatch, one's a coupe. Two are RWD, one is FWD. All have limited-slip diffs and very-good-or-better manual gearboxes. Hyundai's infotainment bests the prior-gen Mazda system (still in Miata) and the setup in the 86. Hyundai had the best sound system of the three, followed by Miata. The 86's seats pushed my shoulders forward, Miata and Hyundai were more comfortable. No heated seats in the Hyundai although I think they are coming alongside the DCT. 

I dunno, go drive them all. PM me if you want to chat more about all three!

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/17/20 6:20 p.m.

Oh and for anyone wondering I paid $27k for my 2020 N Performance Pack. 

karussell
karussell New Reader
4/18/20 7:32 a.m.

Yesterday, Hyundai released official announcement in Korean about Veloster N DCT(https://news.hmgjournal.com/Tech/?p=162911).

There are some new features....

  • Smartstream wet 8-speed DCT. When in manual mode, it does not shift up. I think this is the first time on Hyundai cars?
  • N Power Shift. Not only it simulates a manual transmission's 'feel', it also improves acceleration. 0-100km record is 0.5 seconds faster than Veloster N with manual transmission. It is only available on N mode.
  • N Grin Shift(NGS). When the driver pushes the NGS button, it gives maximum boost. At the same time, shift logic also changes to one optimized for acceleration. With premium fuel, overboost function is also activated. However, to protect powertrain, this function is not available for three minutes once activated.
  • N Track Sense Shift. If the onboard computer recognizes that the car is on a race track or a mountain pass, N Track Sense Shift is automatically activated. N Track Sense Shift helps drivers to only focus on the steering input and the corner. With this system, track records are nearly 1 second faster.
  • Infotainment system update. Screen size is the same(8 inches), but firmware is from 5th gen "wide screen" infotainment system.
ProDarwin
ProDarwin UltimaDork
4/18/20 9:52 a.m.
karussell said:
  • Infotainment system update. 

For the love of god fix the mute/pause button

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/18/20 11:47 a.m.

I like that the shifter manual gate is oriented correctly.

 

It's worrisome that "will not shift automatically when in manual mode" is somehow a feature.  That is as it should be.  Until they get forward looking radar to see that you're about to enter a corner and that upshifting would be a bad idea, this should be the way ALL manually shifted automatics should work.

 

Infotainment system is only interesting if the unit can be removed and a decent half-DIN stereo that uses actual buttons can be installed.  Flat screens are cheap, and require taking your eyes off the road to use, and they are hard to use on anything but billiard table smooth roads.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UltimaDork
4/18/20 11:55 a.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

Infotainment system is only interesting if the unit can be removed and a decent half-DIN stereo that uses actual buttons can be installed.  Flat screens are cheap, and require taking your eyes off the road to use, and they are hard to use on anything but billiard table smooth roads.

The one in my car can be used almost entirely without touching it, except for a couple android auto things which... see my comment above yours.

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