Volvo V70 T5 What is this beast?

foxtrapper wrote: I don't know of any suspension goodies that the T5, or the R (or the T5R) got that the GLT doesn't have. At least in the early V70's. Remember, Volvo does their best to drive you nuts with their designations and their mixing and matching of components on the same car. The Nivomat suspension was anything but a performance upgrade. AWD until they went to the stouter system was very fragile, VERY fragile! As well as the FWD works, I'd leave the AWD alone. The GLT has a smaller turbo with less peak. But, it gets into boost faster than the larger turbos. So a GLT has a good chance of beating a T5 or R for the first block or two. The automatic is boring, but it's not fragile.

The 1995 T5 R had front and rear sway bars with more aggressive valving in the dampers on the same springs at the turbo or na cars. most na and LPT cars of all years have no rear sway bar.

the 96-97 R has shorter higher rate springs with the F&R sway bars and re valved dampers. The Nivomants were standard on both wagon versions. I took mine off and put on volvo "heavy duty" wagon springs to positive effect. Still a understeering pig if pressed.

The 98-00 T5 is the same setup as the 96-97 R with the same 240 (or 238 depending on where you read it) map.

IMO the 15G and 16T HPT cars pull way harder than the 13g LPT cars after 60' if that. I have driven 3-4 of both. The Mitsu 15g and 16t are pretty small turbos too.

That said, you are right, there really is very little difference between a LPT car and the HPT or "R" cars. Many people bolt the 15g or 16t turbo with a manual boost controller at 12psi, drop in the appropriate HPT ecu and get 50 hp and 50ftlbs hp in an afternoon. Nearly all the bits are swap able between years and trim levels.

I totally agree on the 1998-2000 R AWD issue. Some people like it as it tones down the under steer and gives traction out of corners. I drove one and could not stand the feeling of 400lbs of crap being dragged around. It's still not going to really handle well. The inputs are very vague slow and imprecise and that is hard to fix. They are GT's

The 2004-2007 R's really are a substantially different beast than their stable mates.

Ya I here you on the AWD. I am looking for a T5 front wheel drive standard wagon. I would prefer silver but black or white would be ok as well. My understanding is that the low pressure turbo cars were about 40 HP off of the T5 or the R cars. The T5's also seem to have gotten the better suspension bits (rims, brakes and some handling upgrades) The T5 cars are also better appointed meaning that they have more luxury (and more to brake).

We will see what the market bares. I low mileage regular turbo for a reasonable $$$$ would probably win out over a T5 with high millage. It is all relative.

There is no way a GLT would ever out preform a T5 or R. The GLT's are known for: Gut Less Turbo Plus they are just plain ugly. Stay away from anything after newer than a 98'. Volvo got bought out by Ford Motor company and Volvo went down hill quickly after. Ford tried to fit thier tranny's in the newer cars and there is a Major lawsuit still pending over it.

In reply to 98v70t5girl:

Just for reference I've owned the: 1994 850 turbo 1996 850r 1996 850 turbo Platinum and now I've got the 1998 V70 T-5 you want your Volvo to fly? IPD

All the good/useful info seems to already have been posted so I'm just going to leave this right here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFi3o3ivdb8

98v70t5girl wrote: There is no way a GLT would ever out preform a T5 or R. The GLT's are known for: Gut Less Turbo

Nothing there that a manual boost controller can't fix, no?

m4ff3w wrote:

98v70t5girl wrote: There is no way a GLT would ever out preform a T5 or R. The GLT's are known for: Gut Less Turbo

Nothing there that a manual boost controller can't fix, no?

And from what i understand, converting them over to "R" spec isn't exactly hard, either. Have a buddy that had a GLT and swapped to the bigger turbo, boost controller, and ECU, and it was pretty damn quick. Well enough to roast the tires all the way through 2nd gear with a slushbox.

EDIT:

Oops... was thinking about the 840s i think. My bad.

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:

m4ff3w wrote:

98v70t5girl wrote: There is no way a GLT would ever out preform a T5 or R. The GLT's are known for: Gut Less Turbo

Nothing there that a manual boost controller can't fix, no?

And from what i understand, converting them over to "R" spec isn't exactly hard, either. Have a buddy that had a GLT and swapped to the bigger turbo, boost controller, and ECU, and it was pretty damn quick. Well enough to roast the tires all the way through 2nd gear with a slushbox. EDIT: Oops... was thinking about the 840s i think. My bad.

You are thinking 850. Same thing as the early S/V70, different name.