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93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
9/9/20 12:41 p.m.

Are there any 80s-90s Japanese cars that have pop-up headlights, where available with manual transmissions and A/C in the US, have a usable back seat (but coupe or hatchback ok) and run 4x100 wheels?

 

I could only think of the 2nd and 3rd gen Prelude.

 

Edit: also 1st gen Integra

yupididit
yupididit PowerDork
9/9/20 12:45 p.m.

86-91 Celica 

Snowdoggie
Snowdoggie HalfDork
9/9/20 12:45 p.m.

These...

 

Sometimes used for hauling tofu...

Apexcarver
Apexcarver UltimaDork
9/9/20 12:45 p.m.

Geo Storm / Isuzu Impulse

drock25too
drock25too GRM+ Memberand Reader
9/9/20 12:52 p.m.

I had an '85 Nissan 200SX Turbo 5 speed that I could get a  child seat in the back of. It was a decent ride until the turbo went out and my wife burned the engine down.  Was going to stuff a 327 in it, but she sold it while I was working. 

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/9/20 12:55 p.m.

The isuzu Impulse that pop up portions on their headlight but arnt true pop ups. it is 4x100

 

4 lug z31's are 4x114. 3

4 lug 240sx's are the same

S12's are  the same

AE86's are the same

4 lug RX-7's certain trims are the same most are 4x110


 

 

 

 

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/9/20 12:56 p.m.
Snowdoggie said:

These...

 

Sometimes used for hauling tofu...

4x114.3

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/9/20 12:56 p.m.
drock25too said:

I had an '85 Nissan 200SX Turbo 5 speed that I could get a  child seat in the back of. It was a decent ride until the turbo went out and my wife burned the engine down.  Was going to stuff a 327 in it, but she sold it while I was working. 

also 4x114.3

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/9/20 1:02 p.m.

3rd gen accord

Sonic
Sonic UltraDork
9/9/20 1:12 p.m.

88-91 Prelude? 
86-89 Integra for sure. 

alfadriver (Forum Supporter)
alfadriver (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/9/20 1:27 p.m.

I look forward to learning what prompted this line of questioning.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UltimaDork
9/9/20 1:28 p.m.

Research for the new STP (Street Touring Pop-up) autocross class

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
9/9/20 1:35 p.m.
alfadriver (Forum Supporter) said:

I look forward to learning what prompted this line of questioning.

I am getting a car as a weekend/ nice day daily this coming year and doing a bit of a rolling resto-mod on it. I have some 4x100s I like and pop-up headlights are fun. Rear seat so I can carry the kid in it but it would not be the main kid hauler even remotely.

CyberEric
CyberEric Dork
9/9/20 1:42 p.m.

In reply to ProDarwin :

Bahaha! I’m rolling! 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/9/20 1:53 p.m.

Wait until he finds out about wheel adaptors...

 

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
9/9/20 2:04 p.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

Wait until he finds out about wheel adaptors...

 

I am aware of them and I am not running them.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver UltimaDork
9/9/20 2:18 p.m.

The impulse turbo has promise, it's rare though. Handling by lotus if I recall correctly. At the very least the lotus elan m100 used it's drivetrain.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
9/9/20 2:39 p.m.
Apexcarver said:

The impulse turbo has promise, it's rare though. Handling by lotus if I recall correctly. At the very least the lotus elan m100 used it's drivetrain.

This, 1st gen Teggy or 3rd gen Prelude definitely are the ones I'd be the most interested in. My worry with the Impulse would be finding parts for it.

An All-Trac Celica might be fun too.

There is every chance I end up reverting to type and buying another 4-6th gen Civic though.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/9/20 2:42 p.m.
Apexcarver said:

The impulse turbo has promise, it's rare though. Handling by lotus if I recall correctly. At the very least the lotus elan m100 used it's drivetrain.

The drivetrain was enough to swear me off of piston engines for a while.  I could not find an uncracked cylinder head in 1998.

It's a solid axle, rear drive car the size and shape of a Scirocco, because it literally is a Giugiaro design for the second generation Scirocco, stuck on a Chevette chassis.  (That's why it has so much front overhang)  The Turbo models had a four link instead of a torque arm.  The back seat area is smaller than that of a 944.

ultraclyde (Forum Supporter)
ultraclyde (Forum Supporter) UltimaDork
9/9/20 2:55 p.m.
MrChaos said:

3rd gen accord

THIS.

Mike's Honda Accord Page - Srkyboy's '88 Accord LXI

AdrianoB 1988 Honda Accord Specs, Photos, Modification Info at CarDomain

1988 Honda Accord LXi | SMCars.Net - Car Blueprints Forum

I had a white '88 LXi Coupe, a lot like this one with less snow.

fidelity101 (Forum Supporter)
fidelity101 (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
9/9/20 3:15 p.m.

Why so stuck on the lug pattern? It seems to really narrow the options down to what kind of Honda do you want. 

alfadriver (Forum Supporter)
alfadriver (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/9/20 3:21 p.m.
93EXCivic said:
alfadriver (Forum Supporter) said:

I look forward to learning what prompted this line of questioning.

I am getting a car as a weekend/ nice day daily this coming year and doing a bit of a rolling resto-mod on it. I have some 4x100s I like and pop-up headlights are fun. Rear seat so I can carry the kid in it but it would not be the main kid hauler even remotely.

Cool- have fun with it!

Stefan (Forum Supporter)
Stefan (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/9/20 3:53 p.m.

I mean, an appropriate Alfa/Lancia/Fiat with 4x98 PCD and some wobble bolts could possibly fit some or many of these requirements.

Could the wheels be redrilled?  Just a thought to help increase the potential vehicles.

A Porsche 924 is 4x108, but fits a few of your other requirements (manual, A/C, usable back seats for kids, pop-ups) an RX-7 is 4x114 and also meets the same parameters (some claim the RX-7 is a Japanese copy of the 924, and the 2nd gen RX7 is a copy of the 944, etc.)

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/9/20 7:10 p.m.

In reply to Stefan (Forum Supporter) :

RX-7s with rear seats are rare as hen's teeth. and the back seat is not usable for anything at all.  At all.  Unless you are like four foot nothing, and even then you will not fit a car seat in there.

 

I was thinking about this for a while, and I think some of the requirements are redundant.  I can't think of any car with retractable headlights and 4x100 that ISN'T Japanese.  All of the German cars I can think of that were 4x100 had fixed headlights, and I don't think anyone else used....

 

OOH!  Saturn SC! That's the only 4x100 car with retractable headlights that I can think of, that wasn't Japanese.

GTwannaB
GTwannaB GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
9/9/20 7:43 p.m.

What about a Ford Probe? Only the nameplate is US, rest of car is Mazda. 

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