I will add pics after I write this, so if you see no pics, they'll be here soon.
351w, fresh, basic rebuild by yours truly. I took my time and think I did a good job. Not sure if that means that it is awesome or that everything is sketchy or not.... Nothing fancy, nothing special. Basic or standard replacement pistons, cam, etc. It has about 1,000 miles on it now. the heads were built by a guy in Texas who is known, reportedly, to be one of the best head builders in the state. Not sure if it's true, and even the best can make mistakes, but chances are they were built properly.
It fired right up initially after figuring out that I had turned the engine over once to tighten the torque converter bolts and ended up with the dizzy 180 out. Frustrating because I was very aware of that possibility and thought I had taken sufficient pains to do it properly. Oh well. But that meant that we had several rounds of cranking it over to try and start and then try and diagnose before getting it right.
Ran it at about 2500-2700 for 25 mins upon initial startup with actual break-in oil.
It has run great until a few months ago I'd say. I remember feeling a slight miss or hesitation at times, but the transmission seems to have some issues so I've always just assumed that any bad feelings were from that since the motor has been solid.
It also has fitech throttle body efi which gave me issues initially but I took some steps that seem to have fixed the issue and it's been fine (i think) since. nothing at least that says it is fatally messed up. It also has a pertronix electronic ignition unit that replaces the points and condenser.
Well, the slight miss has got worse and I started doing some proper testing. I don't have a tach in there, so i ran with the handheld computer and watched the digital rpm readout and when it started missing, the numbers would go 2200-1100-2250-700-2300-1800-2350-1400 etc. Not exactly those, but you get the idea - it jumps around. But the motor is definitely not jumping around. The signal or the computer's interpretation of the signal has an issue.
As far as the behavior, I was able to nail it down to this: it starts at about 2200 with light throttle and as you gently toe in, it gets worse and worse as the revs climb until about 2800 when the missing gets really bad and then suddenly clears out and it revs just fine. if you get heavy on the throttle it blasts right through that as well.
So I put a traditional tach on it to see if the problem was the efi or the ignition, and it was definitely not jumping around like the fitech's tach. I have a video I'll try and link.
My neighbor came over while I was futzing with it and immediately said, while it was idling, that I had a miss. Sure enough, I actually had two dead holes at idle - number 7 and number 4. They are 180 out in the firing order. Seemed like an easy case of swapped wires, but we tripled-checked and it's not (keeping in mind ford's numbering system and the proper firing order for the 351w). Besides, the problem seems to have crept up - at the very least, it has happened without me touching anything under the hood as far as I can tell.
I have done the following diagnosis and testing:
The miss at idle is definitely two specific cylinders. swapping wires doesn't move the miss, and I ohmed the bad two and two good ones and they all were the same.
I did a compression check and the two bad and two good cylinders are 175psi
I swapped plugs between a bad and good cylinder with no change.
the plugs from the dead cylinders were not wet. doesn't mean anything exactly, but they definitely weren't soaked.
The plugs all look about the same - very white. you can just discern a little more grey/tan on the good cylinder plugs but it takes a keen eye to see it.
the cap and rotor looked pretty good but I cleaned them up anyway with no change.
Tried my neighbor's spare coil with no change.
the pertronix has a little sensor that has 8 magnets that trigger the unit. I rotated that 90* I think and the misses stayed in the same cylinder.
We used a spare plug in #4's wire and laid it on the valve cover and it fired. doesn't mean it's firing in the cylinder, but it's firing out of the cylinder at least.
I pulled the pass valve cover hoping to find a rocker stud backed out, or an adjusting nut awry, but everything looked great. I haven't turned it over and measured the collapsed length of the valve springs to see if the bad cylinders maybe have wiped lobes and aren't opening/not opening enough but both valves on #4 are moving what seems to be the same amount as the others.
there is no glitter in the oil.
I know this is a novel, but I'm trying to figure out what could cause it. Here are some of my thoughts. am I off?
Fuel:
The efi is throttle body and I can't see how it could cause misses (at idle at least) that are only two specific cylinders. I'd expect misses that move around.
Maybe a vacuum leak on those two cylinders, and I forgot to spray starting fluid around before I pulled the cover off. but it could be leaking in the engine valley. but the plugs aren't dirty like i'd expect if it had a vacuum leak in the motor and I don't hear anything which it seems like a vacuum leak significant enough to kill a cylinder would be audible.
I don't think it's fuel, at least not the miss at idle.
Spark:
Same with the ignition - Only the sensor on the shaft has anything to do with what cylinder fires. apart from bad magnets, I can't see how it would cause a miss that stays on two cylinders.
I've moved plugs and wires and tried a different coil and moved the sensor around all with no change. The cap LOOKS good but is the only thing left that deals with specific cylinders that i haven't eliminated.
valvetrain:
short of measuring, everything LOOKS good. No ticking indicating excessive clearance, the valves on the side I pulled the cover look good and seem to move properly.
I don't know if the miss at idle is the same issue as the stumble at light throttle at 2200-2800. I assume it is, but maybe they're separate? I'm tempted to replace the pertronix but can't figure out how it would cause issues on two specific cylinders since rotating the sensor didn't affect it.
any thoughts????