J.A. Ackley
J.A. Ackley Senior Editor
8/6/24 12:14 p.m.

Just turn on the TV, surf the net or scroll through a social media feed. We as a people seem as divided as ever. That includes rifts among generations. Okay boomer, hear this millennial out. I, maybe, just maybe, have found something that can unite us all.

Recently, my wife and I got an invite to the birthday party of …

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Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
8/6/24 3:46 p.m.
J.A. Ackley
J.A. Ackley Senior Editor
8/6/24 4:48 p.m.

In reply to Colin Wood :

That's a helpful link! However, if we solve the problem of nuts and bolts, how can we get closer to world peace? laugh

Chris Tropea
Chris Tropea Associate Editor
8/7/24 9:43 a.m.

As someone also restoring a '71 VW Beetle I can relate to the frustrations of rusted hardware. 

cyow5
cyow5 Reader
8/7/24 11:13 a.m.

But if you want to start a generational war, mention metric vs. standard hardware...

J.A. Ackley
J.A. Ackley Senior Editor
8/7/24 12:35 p.m.
cyow5 said:

But if you want to start a generational war, mention metric vs. standard hardware...

Way to throw fuel on the fire. laugh

DarkMonohue
DarkMonohue GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/7/24 10:22 p.m.
cyow5 said:

But if you want to start a generational war, mention metric vs. standard hardware...

I'm X. Other generations can hash it out with each other. I can start and finish a bitter argument with myself. Nobody else's participation is required.

Case in point, I refuse to use the word "standard" regarding hardware. Metric had been the standard, at least in the automotive world, for decades now. "Imperial" or "SAE" are more correcter.

Don't get me started on JIS vs DIN. Just keep your damn dirty infidel 13mm sockets away from my Toyotas.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
8/7/24 10:30 p.m.
DarkMonohue said:
cyow5 said:

But if you want to start a generational war, mention metric vs. standard hardware...

I'm X. Other generations can hash it out with each other. I can start and finish a bitter argument with myself. Nobody else's participation is required.

Case in point, I refuse to use the word "standard" regarding hardware. Metric had been the standard, at least in the automotive world, for decades now. "Imperial" or "SAE" are more correcter.

Don't get me started on JIS vs DIN. Just keep your damn dirty infidel 13mm sockets away from my Toyotas.

Well, since we are talking about bolts, and difficult removal, and Toyotas...  I sure hate those half height hollowed out bolt heads they love so much.

DarkMonohue
DarkMonohue GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/7/24 10:35 p.m.

In reply to Streetwiseguy :

I'm no fan of them myself, but they don't typically present a problem here where they don't salt the roads.

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
8/8/24 9:14 a.m.
Streetwiseguy said:
DarkMonohue said:
cyow5 said:

But if you want to start a generational war, mention metric vs. standard hardware...

I'm X. Other generations can hash it out with each other. I can start and finish a bitter argument with myself. Nobody else's participation is required.

Case in point, I refuse to use the word "standard" regarding hardware. Metric had been the standard, at least in the automotive world, for decades now. "Imperial" or "SAE" are more correcter.

Don't get me started on JIS vs DIN. Just keep your damn dirty infidel 13mm sockets away from my Toyotas.

Well, since we are talking about bolts, and difficult removal, and Toyotas...  I sure hate those half height hollowed out bolt heads they love so much.

Yeah sorry as someone with a Toyota and a BMW in my shop I will NEVER COMPLAIN AGAIN about hardware issues on the Toyota. I swear the largest building in Munich must be entirely devoted to weird, inaccessible fastener design.

cyow5
cyow5 Reader
8/8/24 10:42 a.m.
JG Pasterjak said:
Streetwiseguy said:
DarkMonohue said:
cyow5 said:

But if you want to start a generational war, mention metric vs. standard hardware...

I'm X. Other generations can hash it out with each other. I can start and finish a bitter argument with myself. Nobody else's participation is required.

Case in point, I refuse to use the word "standard" regarding hardware. Metric had been the standard, at least in the automotive world, for decades now. "Imperial" or "SAE" are more correcter.

Don't get me started on JIS vs DIN. Just keep your damn dirty infidel 13mm sockets away from my Toyotas.

Well, since we are talking about bolts, and difficult removal, and Toyotas...  I sure hate those half height hollowed out bolt heads they love so much.

Yeah sorry as someone with a Toyota and a BMW in my shop I will NEVER COMPLAIN AGAIN about hardware issues on the Toyota. I swear the largest building in Munich must be entirely devoted to weird, inaccessible fastener design.

You don't love aluminum torx bolts??

Then there's Lotus. All the Toyota bits are pretty self-consistent, but the rest of the car was clearly assembled by whichever bolt bin was closest to the worker on that particular day. 

And yes, it killed me saying standard, but that's what those boomers would say. I may just start referring to SAE as Boomer Screws ;) 

 

 

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