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CrashDummy
CrashDummy Reader
10/14/20 5:12 p.m.

Aside from the Mazda5 is there anything reasonably modern that has 3 rows of seats and a proper 3 pedal manual transmission? 

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/14/20 5:14 p.m.

V70R, rare though.

They can be retrofitted, as they were dealer installed except for the first 2 years.

 

John Welsh (Moderate Supporter)
John Welsh (Moderate Supporter) Mod Squad
10/14/20 5:22 p.m.

In reply to CrashDummy :

How many people and what ages are you trying to seat in these 3 rows? 

I ask because, as a former Mazda5 owner, the 3rd row is generally a "jump seat" as in temporary accommodations.   The 3rd row is not big enough for a kid car seat but will hold a small booster seat. Also little leg room for 3rd row. This means the 3rd row is only good for about ages 4 to 13. 

Professor_Brap (Forum Supporter)
Professor_Brap (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
10/14/20 6:24 p.m.

Early caravans. Bonus points for a turbo. 

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/14/20 6:32 p.m.

you can find some 90's subrubans with sticks

mr2s2000elise
mr2s2000elise SuperDork
10/14/20 6:35 p.m.

Owned our 2012 Mazda5 since new for 9 years and 160k miles

used all 6 seats and roof box all the time 

 

wouldn't wish it upon my enemy. Such low build quality. Yuck. 
 

get a 2019 Ram manual trans 6 seater if you must. That's the only other modern vehicle I can think of that suits your needs in a USDM format. 
 

of course FCA quality .... 


 

otherwise (not  modern), but we have a 5MT 1989 LE toyota Master Ace surf van that is 7 seater, dual ac, fantastic . Rwd, mid engine, but slower than a dog. 
But modern it isnt 

 

irish44j (Forum Supporter)
irish44j (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
10/14/20 6:38 p.m.

90s Mitsubishi Montero If you find one with third row jump seats.

ShawnG
ShawnG UltimaDork
10/14/20 6:50 p.m.

3 Miatas?

buzzboy
buzzboy Dork
10/14/20 6:59 p.m.

JDM van is the best option methinks.

Or a GMT400. Officially they were available with an NV4500. Have seen like one on the internet and zero in person. Somebody here has a factory manual, 454, 4x4, square body suburban though. She's baddddd

mtn (Forum Supporter)
mtn (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
10/14/20 7:06 p.m.

I’m disappointed in you folks. 

 

Nobody thought to bring up the two obvious ones. Although I suppose the one is actually a 4 row. 

 

 

pres589 (djronnebaum)
pres589 (djronnebaum) PowerDork
10/14/20 8:24 p.m.

Clearly the answer is box B-body with a 4.8, a turbo, and the A-833 OD trans otherwise known in the Chevy world as the MY6. 

barefootskater (Shaun)
barefootskater (Shaun) UltraDork
10/14/20 8:32 p.m.

Are any of the Transit variants available with a stick in this country?

MotorsportsGordon
MotorsportsGordon HalfDork
10/14/20 8:48 p.m.
buzzboy said:

JDM van is the best option methinks.

Or a GMT400. Officially they were available with an NV4500. Have seen like one on the internet and zero in person. Somebody here has a factory manual, 454, 4x4, square body suburban though. She's baddddd

My dad owned a 94 gmc k1500 sl ext cab long box 5.7 5 speed for 17 years. But it was definitely a very rare combination.

The first 2 generations of caravan you could get a 4 or 5 speed manual. In the first gen you could even order a manual 150 hp turbo 4 for a couple of years. But definitely a very rare combination.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
10/14/20 10:21 p.m.

Swap a manual transmission into a Honda Odyssey? 

mr2s2000elise
mr2s2000elise SuperDork
10/14/20 10:25 p.m.
93EXCivic said:

Swap a manual transmission into a Honda Odyssey? 

 

MotorsportsGordon
MotorsportsGordon HalfDork
10/14/20 10:57 p.m.

If your alright with swapping you could swap something like a t56 transmission into a tahoe/suburban/yukon/Escalade.

buzzboy
buzzboy Dork
10/15/20 6:20 a.m.
MotorsportsGordon said

My dad owned a 94 gmc k1500 sl ext cab long box 5.7 5 speed for 17 years. But it was definitely a very rare combination.

I see the GMT400 pickups in manual surprisingly frequently around here. It's the GMT400 'burbs that are hella hens teeth.

What if our third row in this thought process is Brat style? Just buy a king/crew cab pickup and install jump seats in the bed?

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
10/15/20 6:30 a.m.
barefootskater (Shaun) said:

Are any of the Transit variants available with a stick in this country?

No. Nor the Sprinter or Promaster (Fiat).

In reply to mtn (Forum Supporter) :

The VW Eurovan was never sold in the US with a manual transmission, although some are now subject to the 25 year rule.  Granted, finding a 25 year old van in Europe that isn't beat to death will be its own challenge. 

aw614
aw614 Reader
10/15/20 7:36 a.m.
Ian F (Forum Supporter) said:
barefootskater (Shaun) said:

Are any of the Transit variants available with a stick in this country?

No. Nor the Sprinter or Promaster (Fiat).

In reply to mtn (Forum Supporter) :

The VW Eurovan was never sold in the US with a manual transmission, although some are now subject to the 25 year rule.  Granted, finding a 25 year old van in Europe that isn't beat to death will be its own challenge. 

My parents had a 93 eurovan with a manual transmission, purchased brand new in the US. The first year had it with the 5 cylinder motor, it was slow, but probably better than the automatic that was available.

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
10/15/20 7:58 a.m.

In reply to aw614 :

Really?  I remember the old Transporter vans were sold with manuals, but I've never heard of or seen a Eurovan with one in the US.  But after some digging, I see the 5 cyl/MT van was sold here in 1993 only (didn't sell well).  The more common VR6 versions brought back a few years later are automatic only in the US.  Basically, a 1993 MT Eurovan in the US is a berking unicorn today.  

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
10/15/20 8:13 a.m.
Ian F (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to mtn (Forum Supporter) :

The VW Eurovan was never sold in the US with a manual transmission, although some are now subject to the 25 year rule.  Granted, finding a 25 year old van in Europe that isn't beat to death will be its own challenge. 

Or instead of importing the whole car just get the pieces to convert it to manual?

aw614
aw614 Reader
10/15/20 8:29 a.m.
Ian F (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to aw614 :

Really?  I remember the old Transporter vans were sold with manuals, but I've never heard of or seen a Eurovan with one in the US.  But after some digging, I see the 5 cyl/MT van was sold here in 1993 only (didn't sell well).  The more common VR6 versions brought back a few years later are automatic only in the US.  Basically, a 1993 MT Eurovan in the US is a berking unicorn today.  

Yeah it was the 93 only and also not worth the hassle to look for, even in the late 90s, getting parts was a pain in the ass and it was too unreliable. But it was one of those weird VW ownership things that when you did come accross another one, you'd get a wave back from the other eurovan driver. My neighborhood had two go figure lol

Duke
Duke MegaDork
10/15/20 8:32 a.m.
Ian F (Forum Supporter) said:
barefootskater (Shaun) said:

Are any of the Transit variants available with a stick in this country?

No. Nor the Sprinter or Promaster (Fiat).

In reply to mtn (Forum Supporter) :

The VW Eurovan was never sold in the US with a manual transmission,

I am not entirely convinced that is true.  I believe I drove one in the mid-'90s, that was bought off the VW dealer lot.

 

John Welsh (Moderate Supporter)
John Welsh (Moderate Supporter) Mod Squad
10/15/20 8:50 a.m.

In reply to Duke :

If someone wants to check, fueleconomy.gov will show if there is a MPG rating for the VW w/ manual.

They may not have sold many but if VW wanted to sell any in that configuration in the US then it required mpg testing numbers. 

Javelin (Forum Supporter)
Javelin (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/15/20 8:54 a.m.

There are none, the 5 was the last.

So buy a twin turbo Flex and get power instead.

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