So I ended up with what I thought was going to be the perfect truck for me. A 1999 ford f250 super duty super cab 7.3 diesel, 4wd with a manual transmission. I replaced the batteries, and tires, and thought it would be good to go. Unfortunately the oil pan leaks, and the rear brake line is rotted out. It would need new rear line, calipers, rotors, and pads to be reliably driven anywhere. Beyond that, it is missing the stereo, and the power windows don't work. The doors are rusty, the driver's side rear door doesn't open, and the bed topper door is a little messed up. I am trying to decide my next steps with this truck, but there are not many comps out there, and I am not really a truck enthusiast. If I were to sell it as is, what should I ask for it? Or if I got it in running condition what's it worth?
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Pretty much any time the words " super duty" " 7.3l diesel" and "manual transmission" are attached to the same truck its listed for at least 15k in my area, regardless of rust or anything really.
I don't know if they are getting that though
SV reX
MegaDork
6/29/23 12:47 p.m.
There is still an odd obsession with these trucks, but unfortunately most are beginning to look like yours.
A friend recently sold a pristine rust free southern one for $18K.
With that much rust, I'd think your number should be $5000-8000, but you might pull $10K.
I've owned one, and loved it for a very long time. But I wouldn't pay more than $3000 for that truck. I'm not your buyer.
SV reX
MegaDork
6/29/23 12:48 p.m.
Double check that oil pan leak. It's common for the rear main seal to leak and drip along the edge of the pan.
SV reX
MegaDork
6/29/23 12:49 p.m.
How many miles are on that truck?
One advantage of it being a popular truck is a quick bit of Googling turned up multiple sources for patch panels to repair those rust areas for not terrible money. Assuming you have the time/space to do the work.
It's got 198000 on it. I actually bought rockers and cab corners for it, but i don't have the equipment to pull a diesel engine at my house.
Here is what you need.
https://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/d/dupont-1999-ford-f250-super-duty/7629090303.html
Sell your for what ya paid for it. Fly and drive this one home.
It's worth whatever you can get someone else to pay for it.
earlybroncoguy1 said:
It's worth whatever you can get someone else to pay for it.
This is the kind of valuable insight I was looking for.
That's probably a $7k truck as it sits.
I started with googling the home town in your profile. In simple terms you're west of Chicago. This then means that the rust the truck has is the correct amount of rust a buyer in your area expects a truck this old to have. You're not a clean example that warrants a high price but you are a typical example. Your buyers also will understand rust. Our friends here from the south do not understand rust the same way we do.
I recently sold The Gov't Mule. I am an hour West of Cleveland, OH or generally the same climate as you. Mine was 2006 F250XL, 5.4L, 2wd, single cab, 155k.
Rustier underneath than what the topside appears.
I had first listed at $5k to try to "get all the money" but that was pretty quiet. Two weeks later I dropped to $4.5k and sold it about a week later for $4k.
What I don't have is a back seat and your half row should ad $1k. I also don't have 4wd so add another $1k. I am also not diesel so add $1.5k again. I make no deduction for yours being older since they're generally the same truck but yours is rustier so $1k off. Manual trans will cause yours to sell slower than my auto trans...but it will sell and it might hurt you by $500.
So far, a guess of $6k sale number but ask either $7k or $6.5k for openers.
Mine was truly road ready but AC didn't work.
Your brake lines and non-op windows will cost you. Maybe $500 each so another $1k off now $5k. Maybe even subtract more. The brakes could be a big job if "everything" has to be replaced. I'd recommend spending to get the windows fixed...at least the driver's side.
Thats a $2500 truck - maybe - even with the 7.3. Leaky oil pan is an engine-out fix. The lack of brakes mean it can't be driven by even the lowliest teenage hillbillys or drunk contractors. 99s are an oddball year so even as a parts vehicle they are less desirable than an 01 or 02.
SV reX
MegaDork
6/29/23 5:34 p.m.
In reply to John Welsh :
I think you are underestimating the obsessive love for the 7.3L
Don't fix anything. List it for $8 K. Maybe $8500. Accept anything over $7K.
(It's not actually WORTH that, but people will pay it. Even if it's just a motor donor)
SV reX
MegaDork
6/29/23 5:40 p.m.
In reply to 93gsxturbo :
What's odd about the year?
Its intercooler DFI. That's good
Comps:
Asking $7k but the ad is 4 weeks old
Most of what I see out there for comps have been plow trucks in the past and have a bad trans. If yours has never been a plow truck but sure to state that in your ad. I know the world doesn't like 2wd trucks but one thing I very much liked about it is I was sure it had never been a plow truck and beat up the trans.
SV reX
MegaDork
6/29/23 5:52 p.m.
The cheapest one currently for sale on EBay is $9999
Sold listings show very few under $8K.
BTW, EBay is the place to sell that. Don't sell it locally.
Why not just fix the brakes and drive it a bit?
Later you can try slowing the rust by chopping/grinding the non structural bits, POR15 and Eastwood frame coating whatever you can and ignoring the oil leak.
Seems like you got pretty much what you bought, just the realization of owning a cheaper high mileage truck is starting to worry you.
I would own my screw-up and never admit it via patchwork as much as possible.
Didn't know I could weld until I screwed up and bought a Jeep with a rusted/rotted frame.
93gsxturbo said:
Thats a $2500 truck - maybe - even with the 7.3. Leaky oil pan is an engine-out fix. The lack of brakes mean it can't be driven by even the lowliest teenage hillbillys or drunk contractors. 99s are an oddball year so even as a parts vehicle they are less desirable than an 01 or 02.
The engine doesn't have to come out to pull the oil pan but the transmission does.
SV reX said:
The cheapest one currently for sale on EBay is $9999
Sold listings show very few under $8K.
BTW, EBay is the place to sell that. Don't sell it locally.
Thanks for all your help. I think I am going to go this route.
Thanks everyone for the input. I know I can count on the deep knowledge base of you guys.
APEowner said:
93gsxturbo said:
Thats a $2500 truck - maybe - even with the 7.3. Leaky oil pan is an engine-out fix. The lack of brakes mean it can't be driven by even the lowliest teenage hillbillys or drunk contractors. 99s are an oddball year so even as a parts vehicle they are less desirable than an 01 or 02.
The engine doesn't have to come out to pull the oil pan but the transmission does.
That's correct I guess. Couple different schools of thought on it but none of them are great. Pull the trans and lift the body and pull every accessory off the engine is damn near engine out. Splitting hairs at that point.
Early 99s had a bunch of weirdness, smaller injectors, smaller intake, 15 degree swash plate, different air heaters, and a different front axle in the 4x4s. They are a "tweener" to a point. OBS engine in a Super Duty (not quite but thats the gist of it)
Antihero said:
Pretty much any time the words " super duty" " 7.3l diesel" and "manual transmission" are attached to the same truck its listed for at least 15k in my area, regardless of rust or anything really.
I don't know if they are getting that though
I agree. There's a lot of 7.3 soot heads around here. And the weird thing is most of them weren't even born when their truck was built.
Check the build date to see if it's really an "early" '99. I can't remember what the cutoff is. My '99 is a late '99 and has the setup as the '00 on. One thing all '99 and '00 have that later ones do not are forged conn rods. In '01 they switched to powdered metal ones which are a lot weaker.
SV reX said:
In reply to John Welsh :
I think you are underestimating the obsessive love for the 7.3L
Don't fix anything. List it for $8 K. Maybe $8500. Accept anything over $7K.
(It's not actually WORTH that, but people will pay it. Even if it's just a motor donor)
If you think that has an obsessive following, find a van with the 7.3. People will literally track you down and knock on your door.
93gsxturbo said:
APEowner said:
93gsxturbo said:
Thats a $2500 truck - maybe - even with the 7.3. Leaky oil pan is an engine-out fix. The lack of brakes mean it can't be driven by even the lowliest teenage hillbillys or drunk contractors. 99s are an oddball year so even as a parts vehicle they are less desirable than an 01 or 02.
The engine doesn't have to come out to pull the oil pan but the transmission does.
That's correct I guess. Couple different schools of thought on it but none of them are great. Pull the trans and lift the body and pull every accessory off the engine is damn near engine out. Splitting hairs at that point.
Early 99s had a bunch of weirdness, smaller injectors, smaller intake, 15 degree swash plate, different air heaters, and a different front axle in the 4x4s. They are a "tweener" to a point. OBS engine in a Super Duty (not quite but thats the gist of it)
You don't have to lift the body and the only thing that needs to come off the topside is the fan. It's not fun and if the oil pan is rusted through then other stuff is going to be rusty and fight you but it's not a huge job.