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dculberson
dculberson HalfDork
9/1/11 9:35 a.m.

I even enjoyed the power tool drag races .. anything with noise and speed and enthusiasm is enjoyable to me. Some people are just too picky. :)

ValuePack
ValuePack Dork
9/1/11 4:45 p.m.

Dare I say, I'm a bit more impressed with this young gent I know of from Maine. He's swapping an H6 into his OBS on a shoestring budget in his driveway, all the while posting three trillion relevant, informative videos of the process on YouTube.

Just sayin'.

Taiden
Taiden Dork
9/1/11 4:51 p.m.

LOL. I appreciate that ValuePack

ValuePack
ValuePack Dork
9/1/11 5:06 p.m.

^Seriously. The wiring alone. My God.

Taiden
Taiden Dork
9/1/11 5:11 p.m.

When I'm done it should be a hair under the challenge budget. Would be cheaper with better parts searching though.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
9/1/11 5:15 p.m.

I thought that car was awesome but...

Cone_Junky
Cone_Junky HalfDork
9/1/11 5:35 p.m.

If I could afford the tires and there was somewhere nearby to play, I would drift the E36 M3 out of my track car.

Car control is car control and should be admired.

clutchsmoke
clutchsmoke Reader
9/1/11 6:22 p.m.

Yeah I dunno who pissed in Alfa's Cheerios, but I think the V10 swapped Impreza is impressive. Sounds good, looks like it handles pretty well.

HiTempguy
HiTempguy Dork
9/1/11 6:42 p.m.
clutchsmoke wrote: but I think the V10 swapped Impreza is imprezive.

FTFY.

familytruckster
familytruckster New Reader
9/1/11 7:49 p.m.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOfeqy27PZ0

alfadriver
alfadriver SuperDork
9/1/11 7:57 p.m.

kids these days.

Impressed with people spending money. Cool....

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
9/1/11 8:33 p.m.
alfadriver wrote: kids these days. Impressed with people spending money. Cool....

Some one fabricated it. That some one is pretty badass IMHO.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
9/1/11 9:42 p.m.
familytruckster wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOfeqy27PZ0

Imagine how much faster he would be going without all that wheelspin.

Drewsifer
Drewsifer Dork
9/2/11 12:20 a.m.

Jeez, what's got so many panties in a knot in this thread?

Neat build, good driving.

fasted58
fasted58 Dork
9/2/11 12:51 a.m.
aussiesmg wrote:
Feedyurhed wrote: Geeeezzzzz...........tough crowd.
I agree, that's a damn nice project and the owner is out on track driving it hard, what's not to love?

Agreed. If it were a cone event, maybe there'd be more love here. Take that car off the asphalt... that'd be awesome rally cross. While I'm no big drift fan, that was some pretty darn good car control... and who knows if he doesn't track day it. And money.. who cares, it's his nickel. Like they say, if it don't go, chrome it... that car definitely has the go part right

MitchellC
MitchellC Dork
9/2/11 1:28 a.m.

I need to hear that car in a tunnel, and stat.

Steve Chryssos
Steve Chryssos Associate Publisher
9/2/11 8:33 a.m.
alfadriver wrote: does nothing for me. At some point, it's about throwing money at it. This appears to gotten to be a "how much money can I spend to be impressive" project. The Nissan V8 Miata that was done for the 2010 challenge is a lot more impressive. And it's fast in a timer method as opposed to gymnasitcs ratings.

I'm willing to bet the dude driving that car isn't thinking.... "Gosh I hope I didn't spend too much money on this car???"

He's probably thinking "Woooooooooo FREAKIN' Hooooooo!

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
9/2/11 9:06 a.m.

Of course "impressive" is a completely subjective description.

I find this "impressive," and not every build can be Challenge legal.

scardeal
scardeal HalfDork
9/2/11 9:22 a.m.

Am I the only one who thinks V10s and 5-cylinder cars sound like crap?

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
9/2/11 9:27 a.m.
scardeal wrote: Am I the only one who thinks V10s and 5-cylinder cars sound like crap?

Yes. (Although i'm somewhat with you with the V10. The only one i like is the Carrera GT motor)

But here's some 5-cylinder win.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynnbqGgZm0c

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter SuperDork
9/2/11 9:38 a.m.

{soapbox} You know, I just don't get the drift hate.

It's not racing. We get it. But when you sit there and bemoan it to be an utter waste of money you sound like an elitist grumbling old man pining for the "good ol' days" of bias-ply tires, strombergs, and leather helmets.

At least these guys are keeping motorsports alive in the eyes of the American public. They're getting kids interested in cars... in engines... in modification and fabrication and suspension and not just driving a goddamn Camry until teleportation technology frees them from the chore of driving.. They're demanding manual transmissions and rear wheel drive and keeping manufacturers interested in continuing to make such things.

Which is a lot more than any crotchety old men are doing for motorsport. {/soapbox.}

njansenv
njansenv HalfDork
9/2/11 10:20 a.m.
alfadriver wrote: kids these days. Impressed with people spending money. Cool....

Count me on the "don't get the hate". Maybe the kid built it. Who knows? Writing off awesome fabrication because it cost too much is a little silly.

How many of YOU have been chastised by a beige mobile driver for paying more than the absolute minimum for a car?

Challenge cars are awesome, I get it. It's also the price range I can play in, which helps me appreciate it. It doesn't mean I hate on because they cost more than 2k.

I mean, some of you sound like the guy who bitches at auto-x when someone shows up in a nice car and then doesn't run FTD. You know the type.... "Oh, that poseur in the Elise, someone in a Civic beat him, he's a "...just because he has a nice car??!?!

Steve Chryssos
Steve Chryssos Associate Publisher
9/2/11 10:22 a.m.

Tom and I went to the Formula Drift event here at Palm Beach International Raceway. I can't speak for Tom, but I went in with a poo poo attitude and game away impressed for following reasons:

A) The cars are actually well engineered -- including plenty of the same hardware found on your road race or autocross car.

B) I was surprised to find that the cars are actually set up to hook. Traction is then overcome with power (and e-brake). The cars need to bite and power out of the drift to be competitive.

C) They offer ride-A-long sessions, which is all kinds of fun. It's like a video loop segment of that one "Oh E36 M3" moment at the road course.

D) Formula Drift runs a very tight show. The pre-race driver's meeting is a surprisingly serious affair.

E) I was shocked to learn that scoring involves WAY more than just style.

F) For some reason, there were A LOT of attractive women roaming around. And not just booth babes. The hotties were everywhere.

I'm not telling you to run out and sell your autocross or road race machine. I'm only suggesting that you and your family CAN have a fun time spectating at a Formula Drift event. /Steevo

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
9/2/11 10:28 a.m.
Steve Chryssos wrote: Tom and I went to the Formula Drift event here at Palm Beach International Raceway. I can't speak for Tom, but I went in with a poo poo attitude and game away impressed for following reasons: A) The cars are actually well engineered -- including plenty of the same hardware found on your road race or autocross car. B) I was surprised to find that the cars are actually set up to hook. Traction is then overcome with power (and e-brake). The cars need to bite and power out of the drift to be competitive.

This.

I share a garage with a fully built "Sil-forty" set up for drift. Heim joints, custom control arms, good brake setup, cage, blah blah blah.

If he were to take it to a "normal" track day or autox, it would give a LOT of hardware FITS. Very serious car.

You can't keep speed or control with one of these cars if they aren't set up to hook. This car actually runs Star Specs up front.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
9/2/11 10:41 a.m.
ReverendDexter wrote: But when you sit there and bemoan it to be an utter waste of money you sound like an elitist grumbling old man pining for the "good ol' days" of bias-ply tires, strombergs, and leather helmets.

And what is wrong with bias-plies and strombergs.

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