What to do with my old truck??

I had an IAA price in mind but first I put it on FB (at a little higher price) which netted me close enough so I sold it on FB

Read about the Chevy Equinox

Ok, it's for sale. As-is.  $2500 to a GRMer. 
 

It will go online in a week or 2 after I get it cleaned up. After that, the price will be $3500. 
 

Truck is in Macon GA. 

Messaged - super interested!!!

tastyguac said:

Messaged - super interested!!!

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FYI Ebay has take out longblock motors for 4k and car-part dot com has similar pricing.

In reply to 93gsxturbo :

Ok... but I don't want to be the guy to do it. And I don't know of a shop that wants to put in an eBay motor. 

Dang.  That's super tempting.  If I lived in a non-smog area, this would be too tempting, especially since I'm getting a free Caddy 500 next week.  Alas, it would take more bribe money than I have to get it to pass with a Qjet.

93gsxturbo said:

FYI Ebay has take out longblock motors for 4k and car-part dot com has similar pricing.

Spent some time looking at the eBay options...

$4K is too low. The motors in that price range are all high mileage motors. That's a big "No" for me. Looks like the low mileage ones are more like $5200- 6000 plus the turbos. Still around $6500 for the good ones by the time I include the turbos. That's the same price I was already working with.

By the time I pay the labor, it's getting close to $10K

That's a steel body, right?

I would think the sheet metal and bed would make for a quick sale in the rust belt. 

Put it on FB Marketplace for $3500.  If the truck is a looker I'll bet you'll be surprised how much interest you'll get.  Somebody else is out there that either has a wrecked truck with a good powertrain or a perfectly running truck with body or interior damage wanted to fix it.

You should ad a picture here too for those lurkers who can't resist a deal.

Here locally I watched a fellow with a wrecked truck (just bodywork) with great running gear, buy a great truck with blown motor.  In a few weeks he created a new to him truck.   He moved the new to him bodywork onto his chassis.

Don't ask me which way he has it titled.  

Car-Part dot com has many complete engines in that 150k-170k mile range for $4k complete with turbskis.  If a shop is dicking you $6k to swap a motor, incidentals and labor only, we are both in the wrong line of work.  Book time is gonna be in that 20 hour range, so $6k is $300/hr.   Its a Ford, not a Ferrarri.   In a 250k mile truck I wouldnt sweat a 150k mile engine if the truck was wrecked.  

In reply to 93gsxturbo :

You and I think differently. As far as I am concerned, 170K is a lot on an Ecoboost. I drive  1000 miles a week, and EBs are often stressed routinely with boost. If I am gonna do this, there is no way I'm gonna use a 170K motor.  Plus, the shops don't want the warranty issues with a higher mileage motor (and won't do the work at all).

I'm not concerned about wrecking the truck.  I'm concerned about known wear issues on the EB engines, the amount of miles I drive, and my own experience with an extremely well maintained EB that blew up at 247K.  

Book time is 24 hours. Labor price is $4357.12. Similar quotes from 4 different shops.  So yes, we should both consider a career change. 

No Time said:

That's a steel body, right?

I would think the sheet metal and bed would make for a quick sale in the rust belt. 

I see what looks like a a lot like an imminent "quick sale" up above. I'll bet this makes a nice DD with some sweat equity.

Hopefully the whole story is told here for those of us who would follow along. 

SV reX said:

In reply to 93gsxturbo :

You and I think differently. As far as I am concerned, 170K is a lot on an Ecoboost. I drive  1000 miles a week, and EBs are often stressed routinely with boost. If I am gonna do this, there is no way I'm gonna use a 170K motor.  Plus, the shops don't want the warranty issues with a higher mileage motor (and won't do the work at all).

 

I'm not concerned about wrecking the truck.  I'm concerned about known wear issues on the EB engines, the amount of miles I drive, and my own experience with an extremely well maintained EB that blew up at 247K.  

Book time is 24 hours. Labor price is $4357.12. Similar quotes from 4 different shops.  So yes, we should both consider a career change. 

Here is where I get a bit confused.  A 250k mile truck with a 170k mile engine isn't for you, and it likely isn't for someone who drives 50k miles a year, since most of those folks are either in company-owned vehicles or some other setup where the mileage plays into a tax benefit driving much newer hardware.  

In reply to 93gsxturbo :

There are no tax benefits for W2 employees who drive their own vehicles. No mileage deductions. That ended in 2018

...and even if there were, you still gotta spend the money. 
 

I put 150,000 miles on this truck in 3 years. I paid $17K cash, plus about $5000 total in repairs. Resale value with $250K on it $0. That's $7333 per year.

Comparable truck new would be $70,000. $0 in repairs for 5 years of service. Resale value at  250K is about $20,000. That's $10,000 per year.  Plus finance charges (because most of us don't have $70,000 laying around)
 

It's just math. 

I'd buy it at $2500 if I could find an ecboost engine at a reasonable price 

4bt out of a bread truck...

preach (dudeist priest) said:

4bt out of a bread truck...

I'd lean toward a 7.3 PS or T444. 

The non Ford has a milder tune for medium duty use, but may have standalone ECU to make running the engine in the swap easier.

Although the 4BT probably only needs a single power lead to the injection pump and starting/charging wiring. 

What about 5.0 engines? I wonder how difficult it would be to swap from an ecoboost to a V8? I imagine engines will be cheaper which might make it more feasible. 

In case no one noticed, Paul has no interest in being the person fixing the truck, he wants to sell the truck. I know he's only said it 4 or so times, but keep on telling him how and/or why he should fix it, I'm not sure he understands.

In reply to Steve_Jones :

Haha!

The scary part is that it's starting to get through! 

Steve_Jones said:

In case no one noticed, Paul has no interest in being the person fixing the truck, he wants to sell the truck. I know he's only said it 4 or so times, but keep on telling him how and/or why he should fix it, I'm not sure he understands.

I'm merely brainstorming ideas for the few that's expressed interest in buying the truck. 

In reply to Steve_Jones :

I mean, I think if he just fixed it with a 180k engine...

Haha.  I hope you move it on and get some cash in the process!