...and... The effing Cummins broke AGAIN on the way home today... Okay, not the engine, but the truck... I'd love a new truck I could drive for more than 3000 miles without something in the pos breaking... This thing is as bad as my E30...
You guys can keep your old POS trucks...
/rant...
Yeah, I'm not seeing how a new SuperDuty doesn't fit this bill. Straight axle up front if you get 4x4 (and in my world, a truck without 4x4 is utterly useless), diesel, stick-shift transfercase, etc, etc.
Not sure why you're griping about power windows... do you not like being able to roll the passenger side window up and down from the driver's seat? What's so superior about a crank window vs a modern powered one?
Ian F wrote: ...and... The effing Cummins broke AGAIN on the way home today... Okay, not the engine, but the truck... I'd love a new truck I could drive for more than 3000 miles without something in the pos breaking... This thing is as bad as my E30... You guys can keep your old POS trucks... /rant...
Just needs some love.... I'll gladly take it off your hands. I am sure it is just an easy fix.
aussiesmg wrote: What hate? Are you being serious? Just asking if others agree with me, your choices may vary from mine, but no hate.
That thing is sweet!
I love classic trucks, but newer trucks can do truck stuff too. 
I bought a 1997 Dakota extended cab with the 3.9 V6 and 2wd earlier this year. I got it really cheap and needed to fix a few things on it to make it road worthy. So far, everything has been super easy to fix. It's pretty basic: V6, 2wd, no A/C, but has power windows and locks.
It has hauled crap to the dump, the scrap yard, stuff from appliance stores and home improvement places, etc. I've put 3000 miles on it this year on the weekends, and it loves the abuse. I find it's size to be perfect. I wish it had more power for towing stuff, but the V6 does what I need it to do for now.
My father has a 2008 Tundra with the 5.7L and we've used it to haul all sorts of stuff too. Aside from it's ridiculous size, it's been great so far. The damn thing is FAST.
Ranger50 wrote: Just needs some love.... I'll gy take it off your hands. I am sure it is just an easy fix.
There ain't enough love in a hippy commune to fix this truck. I don't think you realize the sheer number of issues this truck has...
Ian F wrote:Ranger50 wrote: Just needs some love.... I'll gy take it off your hands. I am sure it is just an easy fix.There ain't enough love in a hippy commune to fix this truck. I don't think you realize the sheer number of issues this truck has...
I bet I do. I used to work on them in the dealership....
I had a 69 F100 with manual steering, manual drum brakes, and stick shift with a big block. Drove it around Atlanta. That was a hell of a truck. I keep looking at late 70s ford longbeds b/c I miss it do much, and a pick up is always usefull.
BUT. That 78 f100 won't safely tow my 3500# mustang on a 1500# trailer With spares, tools and gear at interstate speeds. The newer F150s will. They're far more capable getting stuff done, which is what trucks are for.
Again, all is not lost. I had a 2011 F150 shortbed at work. It was bare bones, only option was a cruise/power windows package. Rubber floors, cloth bench. In spirit it reminded me greatly of the 69 model. It was built solid and felt like you could beat it hard without hurting it. I'd love to have another.
I feel like that last real trucks were the Fords that you could lay plywood flat in the bed between the wheel wells. No too many gadgets or froo froo stuff
I know almost nothing about Dodges and whether they can do that or not.
Ranger50 wrote: There is a market for a 28-35k stripper model that is just a rubber mat, vinyl bench seat, no bells and whistles work truck that has the "high end" engine and trans combo.
Ram Tradesman is 99% that.
spitfirebill wrote: I feel like that last real trucks were the Fords that you could lay plywood flat in the bed between the wheel wells. No too many gadgets or froo froo stuff I know almost nothing about Dodges and whether they can do that or not.
Wtf are you talking about? Any fullsize 8' bed truck can do that.
Kenny_McCormic wrote: Push button 4x4 vs a stick on the floor. In ice and salt the Linkage freezes: With push button motor the burns up($$$$$$), with any luck you wont be stuck in neutral. Stick on the floor gets stuck? Use your boots and kick the sucker loose.
Been there done that. Keep the hubs locked and when it starts slipping "pull" the selector in to 4 hi with my right foot.
Of all the driving I did in a '93 F-150, 300/6, 5 spd, vinyl bench, rubber floor, the only thing I didn't like was the clutch in heavy traffic, mileage, and issues from it being 15 years old in the rust belt.
I loved it.
Tom_Spangler wrote: If by "lipstick" you mean way more power, torque, towing and hauling capacity, then whore me up.
quoted because this needs to go in the mag.....
Pretty sure that my 2002 2500HD with the 8.1 and the Allison is real.
Knurled wrote:Osterkraut wrote: Oh look, more crotchety GRM doom n' gloom!You ought to go to Speedtalk and listen to the people bitching about cars not having carburetors and points anymore. There's one guy, who I think was finally run out of the joint, who used to bitch at every opportunity that Chevy should have made a one year transitionary engine that used the SBC bottom end and the LS1 top end. Never mind that it would have made absolutely no sense for them to do so, or that much of the LS1's benefits were in the bottom end, or that the head bolt pattern change was a lot of what allowed the heads to work, by gum they inconvenienced him greatly by not making a way for him to have a junkyardable LS1 with a carb and points, or something.
was his name Paul, and was his handle "pdq67"?
he was fun to have on forums, but he decided a couple of years ago that it would be a good idea to get purposefully banned from a few sites i was on..
DILYSI Dave wrote: Pretty sure that my 2002 2500HD with the 8.1 and the Allison is real.
oh yeah, it's real... but how much stuff is on it that has nothing to do with it's ability to haul lots of heavy stuff without complaint?
DILYSI Dave wrote: Pretty sure that my 2002 2500HD with the 8.1 and the Allison is real.
oh yeah, it's real... but how much stuff is on it that has nothing to do with it's ability to haul lots of heavy stuff without complaint?
In reply to Ranger50:
Then let me count the ways: both rocker sills are gone (rusted), a/c has never worked, cruise control either, stereo is barely functional, fenders are rusted, rear wheel edges too, the paint on the hood and roof flaked away long ago, pulls like hell to the right (always has), rear pinion seal leaks, 4wd doesn't work, trailer brake controller doesn't either and since the truck was set up to carry a slide in the rear wiring is hacked all to hell, engine runs well, but the injector rail leaks, so it hates starting when cold and constantly stinks of diesel, 5th gear rattle, 2nd gear syncro is crunchy (the rest aren't great), seat back catches don't... Most recently, the abs and brake warning lights came on. The abs has never worked and the m/c has fluid, so I'm not sure what's wrong yet. It still stops like it always has - marginally. Let's just say I've always taken care not to tailgate anyone...
Give me some time.... I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting...
you know Ian.. I stopped driving my BMW for LESS reasons than that
I think they still make real trucks. You just don't buy them off of the showroom floor. You buy them from the fleet sales department.
I use to work for a Civil Engineering/ Road technology group a the University of Illinois. We bought a long bed Extended Cab 4x4 truck with vinyl on the floor, no carpet. It had manually locking hubs for the 4wd. It had everything it needed and nothing it didn't. I felt that it was a real truck.
In reply to Ian F:
That ain't nothing I haven't seen before. 
Most of the repairs are under $200 each, besides the body and trans overhaul.
Ranger50 wrote: In reply to Ian F: That ain't nothing I haven't seen before.
Lol. That still makes it a 10k restoration!
ultraclyde wrote:Ranger50 wrote: In reply to Ian F: That ain't nothing I haven't seen before.Lol. That still makes it a 10k restoration!
Since when? I can find rust free gasser Rams for under 2k.... Plus his Cummings is a mechanical P-pump job, so it can run all by itself with a fuel source to the injection pump.... 
Will a '65 Chevy with an original drivetrain safely tow 5+ tons? Certainly the drum brakes, etc, wouldn't be up to the kind of abuse that a modern truck can take.
But a nice ride and A/C make the new stuff crappy?
z31maniac wrote: Will a '65 Chevy with an original drivetrain safely tow 5+ tons? Certainly the drum brakes, etc, wouldn't be up to the kind of abuse that a modern truck can take. But a nice ride and A/C make the new stuff crappy?
My daily driver for 10 years, and I still have it parked behind the shop was a 1970 Ford F100 4X4 with a Bone stock 360 and a 4 speed. (actually a 3 speed with a granny low) and armstrong steering. I love that truck which is why I still have it, but I have two memories of "real truck" type issues.
One day I parallel parked and someone pulled in close behind me. I could not turn the steering wheel enough to get out. I was there for 15 minutes working it back and forth to the hilarity of everyone walking by. I actually pulled some muscles in my shoulder. And no, there was nothing wrong with the steering. In fact it had a newly rebuilt box at the time. Soon after I hacked the front end apart and converted it to power, which was not an available option for a 4X4 Ford in 1970.
My other memory was pulling our little travel trailer through some mountain passes one year. It weighed 3500 pounds plus some gear, so maybe 4000 pounds or so total. Remember the granny low? For hours in the curb lane and on the shoulder with the 4 ways on hoping we wouldn't get rear ended by a flying semi. That 360 makes 170 GROSS horsepower.
I plan to restore that truck (for the second time) and give it to my oldest son, but it will be with more power, A/C, a modern driveline, and a few other bells and whistles. So it will probably not be a real truck anymore. But far more driveable.
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