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BarryNorman
BarryNorman New Reader
12/13/18 4:24 p.m.

Turn your average FWD AT DD into a rewarding HPDE experience? With only hand tools and a floorjack. In other words, how do you get an AT transaxle to work for you?

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
12/13/18 4:39 p.m.

Step #1 is a good through detailing. You'll easily get $500-$1000 more for a properly clean car

Indy-Guy
Indy-Guy UltraDork
12/13/18 5:34 p.m.

Step #2 list and sell on the list of Craig's

 

Step #3 purchase the Answer.

BlueInGreen - Jon
BlueInGreen - Jon SuperDork
12/13/18 5:49 p.m.

I remember reading a build thread on here about someone using their fwd automatic Malibu for track days, can't get much more unlikely than that.

 Found it.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
12/13/18 9:42 p.m.

Yeah, I'd say still do the basics: alignment, fresh brake fluid/good pads, decent tires is possible. 

Then have fun. 

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
12/13/18 9:45 p.m.

If it doesn't break, it'll be fun. I could have fun in a stock mid 90's minivan if someone would let me track one. 

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
12/13/18 9:45 p.m.

Do the basics, then show up and drive. A track day in an AT FWD car is better than no track day at all. Additionally, learning to drive the car you drive most better than you drive it now is never a bad thing.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
12/13/18 9:52 p.m.
Brett_Murphy said:

A track day in an AT FWD car is better than no track day at all. 

Yup.

NOT A TA
NOT A TA Dork
12/13/18 11:15 p.m.

One time I couldn't get my car ready in time to go to a NASA HPDE at Road Atlanta. So I flew in, rented a 4dr Cobalt at the airport and got the extra insurance. Had a blast with it trying to get to and stay on the 99 MPH speed limiter. Talk about a momentum car!

BarryNorman
BarryNorman New Reader
12/15/18 7:44 a.m.

Ok. So the hives' suggestions so far are sell, use the factory performance options and add a trans cooler. For the most common platform in America.  

With the knowledge and creativity shown here let's try this again. Think of this as resource for those of us that are stuck with this platform as our only option for reasons.

 Ex.  Use lightweight atf with modifiers for faster lockup. Or like; use v6 vacuum booster for added brake pressure.  

So, if my peak torque is at 2800rpm would a converter with a stall speed of 2800rpm help? etc.

Indy-Guy
Indy-Guy UltraDork
12/15/18 7:54 a.m.

Better suggestions will follow once more information is given.

What make, model, year, engine? Etc.

BarryNorman
BarryNorman New Reader
12/17/18 1:14 p.m.

In reply to Indy-Guy :

Let's say I was looking at a 2005 Honda CRV.  So At, Awd, K24.

Would a '07 Torque Converter adapt? Help? Could RSX suspension mods work?

bmw88rider
bmw88rider GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/17/18 1:22 p.m.

Not legal for most track days. Most of them don't like any form of Cuv or SUV because of rollover concerns. 

 

If that was the choice, I'd dump it and buy a civic or accord if you want to stay honda. 

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
12/17/18 1:24 p.m.

You need to check with the organization you're going to drive with. Some specifically prohibit SUV's. 

BarryNorman
BarryNorman New Reader
12/17/18 2:45 p.m.

In reply to mazdeuce - Seth :

Prohibit outright or ratio of height to width not within range?

Also, boxed fender flair would need to be how wide to cover the increased track?

rslifkin
rslifkin UltraDork
12/17/18 2:46 p.m.
BarryNorman said:

In reply to mazdeuce - Seth :

Prohibit outright or ratio of height to width not within range?

It varies, but a lot just flat out say no SUVs at all under any circumstances.  Some make exceptions for stuff like SRT Grand Cherokees and such.  

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/17/18 2:48 p.m.
rslifkin said:
BarryNorman said:

In reply to mazdeuce - Seth :

Prohibit outright or ratio of height to width not within range?

It varies, but a lot just flat out say no SUVs at all under any circumstances.  Some make exceptions for stuff like SRT Grand Cherokees and such.  

Most prohibit outright. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.

BarryNorman
BarryNorman New Reader
12/17/18 2:54 p.m.

In reply to Javelin :

Alright then, let's say a 2006 TSX At, fwd, k24. Keeping the At. translate what could be done?

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/17/18 2:58 p.m.

In reply to BarryNorman :

Good full synthetic trans fluid and a high quality filter (plumb in an external one if it's not a factory replaceable one) and a trans cooler would be my first steps. On some models you can get a tuner that can rewrite the factory programming. For example, my 2001 Crown Vic P71 had a a Superchips box and I could adjust line pressures, shift RPM's, and torque converter lockup. Would be worth looking into to see if that platform is something you can do that to. 

Otherwise prep the rest of the car like any other you'd take to the track. Tires, pads/rotors, brake fluid, good oil/coolant, oil cooler, etc, etc, etc. 

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
12/17/18 2:58 p.m.

In reply to BarryNorman :

For a TSX, don't do anything. Go drive it. If it gets hot then look into extra cooling. 

That is, do brakes. Fresh fluids, good pads. Go drive. 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
12/17/18 2:58 p.m.
captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
12/17/18 3:05 p.m.

CRV, I recommend Griot's garage, chemical guys, Adams or at the very least McGuigars stuff. AmmoNYC stuff is amazing, but the pricing is over the top. 

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
12/17/18 3:30 p.m.

for the TSX

as previously noted, a good external trans cooler and fluid. brake ducting, good fluid and rotor blanks, decent pads. Koni inserts. a second set of wheels and 200tw rubber. then a hondata, not so much for the power bump, but for the improved throttle response.

BarryNorman
BarryNorman New Reader
12/17/18 3:40 p.m.

In reply to captdownshift :  

 After the next model cycle the cars that are manufactured (under60k) will be a UV of some kind. And what's readily available isn't understood. Your solution is wax. 

Yes, taking a decent sporty car and making these mods is probably the best solution.  But can your average commuter be made into a GT3 Pcar? Floppy paddles, sequential shifting, and left foot trail braking weekend warrior?

BarryNorman
BarryNorman New Reader
12/17/18 3:43 p.m.

In reply to Javelin :

Thanks for the prevailing wisdom. And probably the most reasonable. But is there nothing more to be done? 

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