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Tom Heath
Tom Heath Webmaster
10/29/10 2:30 p.m.

I think there's a difference between a supercar and an exotic. The Corvette would be my choice as well, but it's hard to consider it particularly exotic.

oldtin
oldtin HalfDork
10/29/10 2:39 p.m.

What about a mondial coupe? One of the least loved ferraris out there - justified or exotic bargain?

Cotton
Cotton Dork
10/29/10 2:50 p.m.
96DXCivic wrote: In reply to belteshazzar: I don't know to me it doesn't sound that great. I mean good but not great. And it still doesn't change the fact it is a Honda. Don't get me wrong, I love Hondas but a Honda supercar is right up there with the idea of Lexus supercar on my list of do not wants.

I agree with this. I have a friend with an NSX and it doesn't do much for me. His Boxster S with a GHL exhaust sounded MUCH better.

Cotton
Cotton Dork
10/29/10 2:57 p.m.
Tom Heath wrote: I think there's a difference between a supercar and an exotic. The Corvette would be my choice as well, but it's hard to consider it particularly exotic.

To me the ZR-1 both current and the 90s one should be considered exotic. I heard a 90 ZR-1 on a dyno and that car sounded incredible.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
10/29/10 3:04 p.m.
Tom Heath wrote: I think there's a difference between a supercar and an exotic. The Corvette would be my choice as well, but it's hard to consider it particularly exotic.

I think some illustrations are in order to help clear things up.

Exotic:

Super car:

Slyp_Dawg
Slyp_Dawg GRM+ Memberand Reader
10/29/10 3:33 p.m.

first year (in the US anyway) Elise, then wait for the facelift cars to show up here and snatch the front clam off of one of them, if it will fit and you like that look better than the current nose (I personally do, but different strokes for different folks I guess). Toyota engine and gearbox (reliable and probably not hard to extract power out of if that's what floats your boat), not terribly complicated, handle like gokarts and look like hot intimate pornography with four wheels. only thing you might have to worry about is the chassis corroding, since it is aluminum, and buying used pretty much ensures that you won't be able to take advantage of the chassis corrosion warranty Lotus has.

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Webmaster
10/29/10 3:36 p.m.

I dunno...I think this is more like it.

Supercar:

Exotic:

sachilles
sachilles HalfDork
10/29/10 3:46 p.m.

I expect better picture posting skills out of our grm webmaster. (ie don't post pictures my company's very lax filter will block).

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Webmaster
10/29/10 3:49 p.m.

Wonder woman nor 4-armed video game lady should trigger any filters...they are far more tame than the chemical wonders presented by GPS.

< edit > I bet it's the video game tag that triggers your filter...

sachilles
sachilles HalfDork
10/29/10 4:00 p.m.

:shrug: I get a blank little white box. And when I try to paste the link into my browser it's forbidden. This never happens to me. I'm now intrigued.

4 armed lady you say?

triumph5
triumph5 HalfDork
10/29/10 4:03 p.m.
oldtin wrote: What about a mondial coupe? One of the least loved ferraris out there - justified or exotic bargain?

Something of an exotic bargain. By far and away, one of the easiest Ferraris to live with on a daily basis. It has none of the heaviness found in the earlier Ferrari's--some feel like you're shifting a truck transmission--and they are overlooked by many today. And you can provoke some trailing throttle oversteer in them WHEN you want to, not when it decides it wants to. No, not an "Oh, My God" adrenalin rush super-Ferrari. But, after driving one for a week, I didn't tire of it, didn't want to give it back, because it didn't beat me up or force me to contort myself into it. And all the controls worked! Lots of Exotics can't say that coming out of the dealership, brand new. Overlooked, low-priced for now, and you may have just hit on one of the "easiest" to get true exotics.

LainfordExpress
LainfordExpress New Reader
10/29/10 5:06 p.m.

As far as entry level, I think the 911 SC is the E36 M3. Just old enough to be cool, just new enough to be reliable, just fast enough and simple enough to be joyous fun.

oldtin
oldtin HalfDork
10/29/10 5:28 p.m.

^^^ I'm thinking of selling off a 3.2 carrera (the second one I've had) to help pay for .... well, I'm not quite sure yet.

This one is out there - good records, well kept - $16,500

triumph5
triumph5 HalfDork
10/29/10 5:33 p.m.

In reply to oldtin: Good records, well kept, AND have a pre-purchase inspection by a qualified tech. Then buy it.

bradyzq
bradyzq Dork
10/29/10 6:54 p.m.

In reply to Tom Heath:

Regarding the exotic 4-armed woman: to be truly exotic, should she really have 4 arms?

924guy
924guy Dork
10/30/10 8:41 a.m.

this one is a bit on the high end, okay, itsalmost the most expensive used gts ever ($92,000), but hey, if you want super car...

for allot less jingle, you can get a late model s version and enjoy it...

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
10/30/10 8:52 a.m.

In reply to 924guy:

I could be rocking a 996 GT3 for 92k heads of cabbage with scratch left over to put radial slicks over BBS 3 piece wheel porn. That 928 might be sweet but its $85k overpriced.

racerdave600
racerdave600 HalfDork
10/30/10 10:48 a.m.

Exotic-wise, I don't know. I've always like Ferraris, so maybe the 308. Problem is, as time goes on, I want an exotic less and less. Another thread started me thinking about 308GTB's, but the more I thought about it, the more I wanted something like my old 944 Turbo or a newer 993. And I've always, always wanted a Europa. While not as exotic as the Esprit, they are somewhat similar underneath, if a bunch slower.

So, in my own warped little world, my not so "exotic" choice would be a good twin cam Europa!

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand Dork
10/30/10 11:36 a.m.

The older I get, the more I can appreciate vehicles that just work. I guess my choice wold either be 911 or NSX...

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/30/10 6:08 p.m.
oldtin wrote: ^^^ I'm thinking of selling off a 3.2 carrera (the second one I've had) to help pay for .... well, I'm not quite sure yet. This one is out there - good records, well kept - $16,500

I've seen that car, and I've considered selling my Carrera 3.2 for it.

Ian F
Ian F Dork
10/30/10 8:46 p.m.

Hmm... now where does the Viper fit in ranking of 'exotics'?

FlightService
FlightService Reader
10/30/10 9:49 p.m.
Dr. Hess wrote: I know of one that is better than perfect for ~18K. Another that needed paint after tagging a soft wall at a HPDE went for ten. Go for 89 and up.

For once I agree with Hess.

Lotus Goodness Yummy

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
10/31/10 11:07 a.m.
Tom Heath wrote: I think there's a difference between a supercar and an exotic. The Corvette would be my choice as well, but it's hard to consider it particularly exotic.

Supercars are fast, exotics are jewelry. They aren't about being fast, just looking good.

So Moslers and Corvettes and 911 Turbos and such are supercars.

Lambos and weird cars nobody's ever heard of but still cost a million dollars and have approach and departure angles that would need a ramp to drive up onto a dime... those are exotics.

F-cars seem to straddle the line. A lot of them are exotics, but post-Enzo (who used to laugh at what people would buy just because it had his name on it) seems to be seeing more gearing toward performance.

Keith
Keith GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/31/10 2:57 p.m.

A car can be both exotic and a supercar. Exhibit A: Countach. It may not occupy the same spot in the performance spectrum as it once did, but it defined the supercar breed for many of us. Or step back a decde or two and say Muira.

But a car can certainly be one and not the other. There have been lots of examples so far, most of the made in Bowling Green or Stuttgart. Or various Alfas or even Aston Martins

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
10/31/10 7:40 p.m.
FlightService wrote:
Dr. Hess wrote: I know of one that is better than perfect for ~18K. Another that needed paint after tagging a soft wall at a HPDE went for ten. Go for 89 and up.
For once I agree with Hess. Lotus Goodness Yummy

I heart these. It's one of only two cars I'd consider selling the J-H to buy (the other is the Elise).

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