maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
9/15/09 3:52 p.m.

What are these? they showed up in the back seat of a Porsche here at work that the owner bought. He tried to sell them online, but had no idea what they were for, so the guy that bought them returned them due to incorrect bolt pattern.

What are they, and where did they come from? I know I have seen them in the past, but I cannot place them for the life of me. what do y'all say?

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
9/15/09 4:02 p.m.

IIRC that's a rather common mid 90's aftermarket wheel which (again IIRC) was imported and marketed by American Racing. I want to say that it was sold under a bunch of other brand names as well, through Pep Boys and some of the discount tire chains.

jrw1621
jrw1621 HalfDork
9/15/09 4:13 p.m.

My thoughts are the same as Jensenman. The no-name cheap tires also lead me to believe the same.

Tim Baxter
Tim Baxter Online Editor
9/15/09 4:14 p.m.

I've seen them on a lot of different things, in both 4 and 5 lug form, as I recall.

jrw1621
jrw1621 HalfDork
9/15/09 4:17 p.m.

Are they these?

Found in reader's rides:
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/reader-rides/712/

I looked up neons because i remeber these rims being very popular amongst the autox'ing neons.

I think these pictured are the American Racing (and others) Rims that Jensenman mentioned and as Tim commented, they came in many sizes. Yours are 4 lug and pictured are 5 lug

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
9/15/09 4:29 p.m.

they appear to be 4X114.3 in some kind of front wheel drive offset...what would that fit?

internets say Acura/Accord...Suzuki Swift?

I thought those were 4X100...

jrw1621
jrw1621 HalfDork
9/15/09 4:32 p.m.

Resource:
http://www.adaptitusa.com/referencebook.htm

superblackser
superblackser New Reader
9/15/09 4:33 p.m.
maroon92 wrote: they appear to be 4X114.3 in some kind of front wheel drive offset...what would that fit? internets say Acura/Accord...Suzuki Swift? I thought those were 4X100...

Kind of look like AR to me, have that look.

4x114.3 IIRC was also the First and Second Gen Nissan Altima's. With other RWD, offset also the S13/S14 chassis 240SX with the 4-bolt pattern.

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/15/09 4:41 p.m.

Most Hyundais and Ford Festiva...

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
9/15/09 4:46 p.m.

so...they are worthless, ugly, and heavy...as in they are worth about 2 bucks...

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
9/15/09 4:50 p.m.

Festiva is 4X100 John...Ten demerits from your Ford sponsored Man Card!!!

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/15/09 4:54 p.m.

Aspire is 4x100mm, Festiva is 4x114.3mm. Ten demerits from your card and an additional 125 added to mine.

http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com/Ford___Vehicle_Bolt_Pattern_Reference.cfm

Don't Mo with the 'Fo ;)

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
9/15/09 5:13 p.m.

I have taken Festiva rims and put them on my Aspire...I KNOW they fit. and no, i did not redrill them.

njansenv
njansenv Reader
9/15/09 5:15 p.m.

I wanna say the style was AR-24. They were a popular stock class auto-x wheel back in the day for Neons.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/15/09 8:19 p.m.

Very common cheap AR wheel from about ten years back. Pep Boys and Town Fair Tire sold a bunch of them around here, before people started putting huge stupid wheels on Civics.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand Reader
9/15/09 8:43 p.m.

I've got some of those...slightly different offset though.

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado Dork
9/15/09 8:55 p.m.
jrw1621 wrote: Resource: http://www.adaptitusa.com/referencebook.htm

Wow! They even have center bore sizes so you can order your rings!

Bookmarked.

Per Schroeder
Per Schroeder Technical Editor/Advertising Director
9/15/09 8:58 p.m.

They're actually pretty light for the day. About 12-13lbs for a 14x6. That was pretty good for the Neons/Celicas/etc that used them. I've never seen one break.

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
9/15/09 9:00 p.m.
EvanB wrote: I've got some of those...slightly different offset though.

Holy cow. What size, bolt pattern, offset etc? I might could use 'em.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand Reader
9/15/09 11:01 p.m.

13x7, -43mm offset, 4x100 bolt pattern

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/16/09 6:14 a.m.
maroon92 wrote: I have taken Festiva rims and put them on my Aspire...I KNOW they fit. and no, i did not redrill them.

http://www.ford-forums.com/ford-festiva/9908-ford-festiva-rims.html

It is not uncommon for a Festiva to ride on an Aspire suspension but believe me there is a difference in the OE application.

Look up the brake rotors or drums on any parts website, they will give you the bolt count and circle.

NAPA said: Features & Benefits NAPA Brake Drums Provide Consistent Quality & Reduced Noise.; NAPA Brake Drums Are Vehicle Specific & Meet Federal Safety Standards.; Castings Meet Sae J431/g3000 Specifications For Proper Tensile Strength.; Machined To Control Perpendicularity & Run-Out For Optimal Performance & Brake Life. Attributes # of Bolt Holes : 4 Bolt Circle Diameter : 4.5" Brake Drum Surface Depth : 1.34" Drum Type : Brake Drum Height : 2.95" Includes ABS Inner Sensor Ring : No Inside Diameter : 6.69" Maximum Discard Diameter : 6.75" Mounting Type : G O.D. : 7.63" Warranty Limited Lifetime-See Manufacturers Written Policy Warranty PDF Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) There is no MSDS for this item Application Information: 1993 Ford Festiva
NAPA said: Features & Benefits NAPA Brake Drums Provide Consistent Quality & Reduced Noise.; NAPA Brake Drums Are Vehicle Specific & Meet Federal Safety Standards.; Castings Meet Sae J431/g3000 Specifications For Proper Tensile Strength.; Machined To Control Perpendicularity & Run-Out For Optimal Performance & Brake Life. Attributes # of Bolt Holes : 4 Bolt Circle Diameter : 100mm Brake Drum Surface Depth : 1.66" Drum Type : Brake Drum Height : 2.65" Includes ABS Inner Sensor Ring : No Inside Diameter : 7.88" Maximum Discard Diameter : 7.83" Mounting Type : G O.D. : 9.65" Warranty Limited Lifetime-See Manufacturers Written Policy Warranty PDF Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) There is no MSDS for this item Application Information: 1994 Ford Aspire
maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
9/16/09 10:29 a.m.

wierd...thanks john.

subrew
subrew Reader
9/16/09 3:44 p.m.

Those were the hot ticket back in the Neon Challenge days.

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