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kreb
kreb GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/29/13 11:52 a.m.

You say that like its a bad thing!

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/29/13 11:54 a.m.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/29/13 11:55 a.m.

kreb
kreb GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/29/13 11:56 a.m.

Actually there's a "custom" e9 near me that, although the guy did a decent job on it, makes me crazy. Kind of like drawing a moustache on Mona Lisa. I can only hope that it was a rotten hulk when he began.

Xceler8x
Xceler8x GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
10/29/13 12:14 p.m.
Swank Force One wrote: Similar treatment.

Well now. That I like.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/29/13 12:44 p.m.
kreb wrote: One of the things that holds me back IRT rods like this are what I assume to be really heavy rotating mass and the effect it must have on handling and breaking. Any guess what those wheel/tire combos weigh?

Once you go rat rod you throw performance (other than maybe straight-line) out the window, because of this problem and the tidy-looking but awful and archaic types of suspension (typically) used.

Doesn't help that most of them are slammed...

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
10/29/13 12:53 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: Doesn't help that most of them are slammed...

I always thought a low CG was a good thing. OK, dually 911 aside.....

Xceler8x
Xceler8x GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
10/29/13 1:43 p.m.
Javelin wrote:

You could only build this in a state without a mandatory vehicle inspection. In VA you'd get buried under the DMV jail trying to register it.

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk SuperDork
10/29/13 1:52 p.m.
Xceler8x wrote:
Javelin wrote:
You could only build this in a state without a mandatory vehicle inspection. In VA you'd get buried under the DMV jail trying to register it.

Whadya mean? It's just a slightly modified Chevy delivery truck.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/29/13 1:56 p.m.
914Driver wrote: I always thought a low CG was a good thing. OK, dually 911 aside.....

It's good until you scrape the ground or bottom the suspension too much (or screw up your camber curves too badly, for the few rat rods not using live axles). Most rat rods have less ground clearance than an F1 car, I bet they aren't running F1-like spring rates...

nepa03focus
nepa03focus Reader
10/29/13 2:19 p.m.
Swank Force One wrote: Similar treatment.

Oh I kinda like that one. The front end is sweet.

bravenrace
bravenrace UltimaDork
10/29/13 2:32 p.m.
Javelin wrote:

I am shocked an dismayed at how much I like that.

bravenrace
bravenrace UltimaDork
10/29/13 2:34 p.m.

In reply to Xceler8x:

There are a lot of states that don't have that. Like Ohio...

LuxInterior
LuxInterior New Reader
10/29/13 2:36 p.m.
nepa03focus wrote:
Swank Force One wrote: Similar treatment.
Oh I kinda like that one. The front end is sweet.

That is awesome@! I would rock the E36 M3 out of that!

poopshovel
poopshovel MegaDork
10/29/13 2:39 p.m.

Liking everything pictured so far. Shrug.

kreb
kreb GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/29/13 2:40 p.m.

The way I see it is you resist the urge to slam it, run those crazy big wheels around town, then put them away for the small diameter track wheels with minimal ground clearance. As for suspension, anything goes on a rat, right? Even.......double wishbone!

bravenrace
bravenrace UltimaDork
10/29/13 3:10 p.m.

I have an old crew cab dually with a rusty body, good frame and drivetrain. I'm thinking....

ArthurDent
ArthurDent HalfDork
10/29/13 3:12 p.m.

The BMW has the same issue as the VW. The rear wheels looked rather tacked on. A cool way to use up a rusty old beater though.

yamaha
yamaha PowerDork
10/29/13 3:53 p.m.
bravenrace wrote: In reply to Xceler8x: There are a lot of states that don't have that. Like Ohio...

Bingo, there are more states that have zero gestapo inspections than states that do......

Chris_V
Chris_V UltraDork
10/29/13 3:57 p.m.
ArthurDent wrote: The BMW has the same issue as the VW. The rear wheels looked rather tacked on. A cool way to use up a rusty old beater though.

That's kind of how a channeled "traditional" hot rod looks, though.

Will
Will Dork
10/29/13 4:18 p.m.

In reply to Chris_V:

Glad to see you put "traditional" in quotes. There is very little traditional about most current rat rods. They've become caricatures of what their owners think hot rods used to look like.

moparman76_69
moparman76_69 Dork
10/29/13 4:39 p.m.

I have a rusty omni and a dakota. Someone talk me down, I don't want a divorce.

Paul_VR6
Paul_VR6 HalfDork
10/29/13 4:41 p.m.

I hate how much I like these.

kreb
kreb GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/29/13 4:53 p.m.
Will wrote: In reply to Chris_V: Glad to see you put "traditional" in quotes. There is very little traditional about most current rat rods. They've become caricatures of what their owners think hot rods used to look like.

I think that it's more (and less) than that. Rat rods are to traditional rodding the way Punk Rock was to American Bandstand. The hot rod magazines have long been addicted to throwing cubic dollars at builds. Rat Rodders embrace a more down-and dirty approach. When it's done well, it's imaginative, stylish and fun. When it's done poorly, it's ugly, slipshod and unsafe.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
10/29/13 5:37 p.m.
kreb wrote: One of the things that holds me back IRT rods like this are what I assume to be really heavy rotating mass and the effect it must have on handling and breaking. Any guess what those wheel/tire combos weigh?

Total guess, but I'm figuring that styles comes a little before performance.

So, who's going to be the first one to do a Challenge car like this?

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