pointofdeparture
pointofdeparture GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
7/22/17 9:08 p.m.

Just picked up a sweet minitruck, '87 Toyota 2WD with a bunch of LCE parts on it. Among them is a Weber 32/36 on an Offenhauser dual-plane manifold with some kinda LCE vortex carb spacer.

The thing whistles like CRAZY between very light and medium throttle. Not at idle, not under aggressive throttle. I would tend to think this is a vacuum leak (but some people say carb spacers just make that noise?) so I'm wondering what the best way to remedy it is. I bought it from an old friend who said that the sound is normal from everything he could gather, but it's driving me wild so I need to do something about it.

It has a teflon base gasket and a paper gasket between the spacer and carb. Should I use a little bit of copper gasket spray somewhere to try and get a better seal? Should I throw the spacer away (some people swear they make a huge difference, others say they're useless)?

http://www.lceperformance.com/LCE-Pro-Spiral-Spacer-1-Weber-Carb-Spacer-Kit-p/1033023.htm

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/22/17 9:36 p.m.

Never heard of this I am curious to see what people say.

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
7/22/17 9:44 p.m.

I had this on one carb (it has 4) in my Corvair once, but it was at idle and it was pretty loud. I cleaned up the butterflies on the carb (light sanding) and that stopped it.

I am thinking it was a little bur of metal on the edge of the butterflies that was having some sort of strange whistle effect.

Since yours is doing it off idle, I would suspect it might be the the seal as you suspect, but you might want to take a look at the butterflies just to be sure.

rustyvw
rustyvw GRM+ Memberand Dork
7/22/17 9:54 p.m.

Either get rid of the muffler, or put a louder stereo in it. Seriously, I would take out the spacer and see what happens.

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro PowerDork
7/22/17 10:15 p.m.

You might need the spacer to for the linkage to clear the manifold, I had an 18R with a dual plane offenhauser and I needed a spacer.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/23/17 7:52 a.m.
dean1484 wrote: Never heard of this I am curious to see what people say.

Me too. The Autolite 4300 in my first car also whistled at a certain throttle position a little before the secondaries started to open.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy UltimaDork
7/23/17 9:34 a.m.

It's not really unusual for a bit of whistling just off idle. That is a result of high air speed past the almost closed throttle. If it's still whistling at more than quarter throttle, I would be looking for leaks, either internal or external.

A bit of a whistle isn't really too odd on an old, simple carb, either. It's one of the reasons factory built air cleaners are so big.

pointofdeparture
pointofdeparture GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
7/23/17 10:09 a.m.

In reply to Streetwiseguy:

Yeah, everything I'm finding suggests that unless it's whistling all the time it's very likely normal. This only happens at extremely light-medium throttle (like 1/16 to 1/4 and then it goes away) so I'm inclined to believe that, what sucks is that that's basically freeway cruising throttle input so I hear the damn thing all the time!

May just need to replace the little Weber cube air cleaner with something more substantial.

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/23/17 10:59 a.m.

In reply to pointofdeparture:

Maybe add velocity stacks?

sesto elemento
sesto elemento SuperDork
7/23/17 9:56 p.m.

Mine whistles constantly, drives me nuts and I'm having trouble tracking down the source. 82 fj40 2f 38mm webber, brand new, passes a smoke test with my matco machine. I did have to fix an issue with the adapter plate where the studs stuck out the bottom just enough to cause a vacuum leak, I ground them down just a tiny but so they're subterranean.

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