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Trackmouse
Trackmouse Dork
11/17/16 2:52 p.m.

Recently learned my Honda Fit has a timing chain that requires no replacement ("life of the engine") and according to the dealer, the water pump only needs inspection for the shaft play. Apparently the only thing I get to do to this car is change the oil and tires. At 100k it's valve adjustment... where's the fun in this? I'll tell ya: taking an on/off ramp faster than the 458 behind you can.

Stealthtercel
Stealthtercel Dork
11/17/16 3:07 p.m.

So I checked out that URL of Bobzilla's. Only on the GRM board can you get a link to a Hyundai Accent with 25 pounds of boost running very low 11s at a drag strip in Malta. I love this place. (GRM, I mean, although I'm sure Malta is nice too.)

Coldsnap
Coldsnap Dork
11/17/16 3:14 p.m.

Pretty sure Honda Fits are going to outlast us all.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
11/17/16 3:14 p.m.
Stealthtercel wrote: So I checked out that URL of Bobzilla's. Only on the GRM board can you get a link to a Hyundai Accent with 25 pounds of boost running very low 11s at a drag strip in Malta. I love this place. (GRM, I mean, although I'm sure Malta is nice too.)

IIRC, those guys pushed it to 35psi with a custom intake manifold before the bottom end let go. They were changing transmissions every other pass. Launched in second, ate 3rd and 4th. It was very impressive.

Also, to the durability of that engine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZsflYVV3s0

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory UltraDork
11/17/16 4:14 p.m.

In reply to Bobzilla:

That was great! Didn't look where that was but redneck fun is redneck fun no matter where you're from!

I knew it was a lost cause to try to extinguish that blowtorch shooting out under that thing.

Always been a closet fan of Hyundai. What would you recommend if one had ~$1,500 to spend? Just curious.

wheelsmithy
wheelsmithy GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/17/16 5:28 p.m.
Trackmouse wrote: Recently learned my Honda Fit has a timing chain that requires no replacement ("life of the engine")

Whaaa??? Is that all Fits? You own a 2nd gen, right? I was kind of getting geared up to do a chain in another 20K miles.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
11/17/16 5:44 p.m.
ebonyandivory wrote: In reply to Bobzilla: That was great! Didn't look where that was but redneck fun is redneck fun no matter where you're from! I knew it was a lost cause to try to extinguish that blowtorch shooting out under that thing. Always been a closet fan of Hyundai. What would you recommend if one had ~$1,500 to spend? Just curious.

cleanest car you can find! seriously though, the Accent and ELantra of the early 2000's while prone to rust are dead nuts reliable. They had the same problems the early hondas and toyota's had. Will run forever, easy to work on but rust away in no time. The wife's 00 Accent rear sway bar had rusted down to under 9mm at the bushings from the stock 13mm

iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
11/17/16 5:54 p.m.

Escorts for years. Now two Fiesta's , an '11 sedan that got totaled, now a '13 hatch.

I really enjoy driving it. Surprising what you can do with only 120 hp.

No serious problems.

iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
11/17/16 6:01 p.m.

Size comparisons are interesting. My ZX2SR compact and my sub-compact Fiesta have almost the same measurements.

Even weighs the same.

pointofdeparture
pointofdeparture GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/17/16 6:07 p.m.
wheelsmithy wrote:
Trackmouse wrote: Recently learned my Honda Fit has a timing chain that requires no replacement ("life of the engine")
Whaaa??? Is that all Fits? You own a 2nd gen, right? I was kind of getting geared up to do a chain in another 20K miles.

Yes, all Fits of all generations have timing chains. I have a second gen too. Considering how many there are out there at 200k+ on original chains I think we'll all be OK (unless you are real bad about regular oil changes). Hell, they even come with Iridium plugs so you'd only have to do those with every valve adjustment! The valve adjustments are the only engine thing you really need to stay on top of.

daeman
daeman HalfDork
11/17/16 6:33 p.m.

Two of the most fun to drive cars I've had were my partner's old k11 micra and my mk2 Suzuki Swift gti.

There are probably faster, better handling subcompacts out there, but they put a smile on my face Neary every time I drove them.

outasite
outasite Reader
11/17/16 7:45 p.m.

VW Fox, Mazda 323, Mercury Tracer S/W, Toyota Echo: These were my daily drivers for the past 20 years. Great MPG, not noticed by LEOs, very little maintenance (except Fox). Drove them hard/always started in extreme cold (-35 degrees). And sold them all when I was done with them.

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory UltraDork
11/17/16 8:40 p.m.

My friend used to "borrow" his sisters 80's Datsun B210 manual and man did we have fun. It sure seemed fast at the time When I was 18. My buddy was a crazy driver (on empty rural roads) and a very good driver to boot.

Maybe a modern version of that would bring back my youth. A midlife crisis minus the red sports car.

Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
11/17/16 10:15 p.m.

I suppose my only subcompacts so far have been 'enthusiast' vehicles but i certainly haven't found any of my tiny cars unsafe or uncomfortable or un-useful, but i do agree with the earlier statement that modern subcompacts are very tall and you just CANT get the same kind of small-car feel you can get in older cars.

Nathan JansenvanDoorn
Nathan JansenvanDoorn Dork
11/18/16 3:13 a.m.

I love my Fiesta ST. An honest 40 USMPG (5.7L/100km), and about a ton of fun.

iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
11/18/16 10:12 a.m.

Saw an interesting picture in the morning paper.

Head on collision of what looked like a Fiesta/Focus, couldn't tell from the damage, and a crew cab pickup. Major damage to both. To see what that sub or compact car did to that pickup was interesting.

No serious injuries to drivers or passengers.

92dxman
92dxman SuperDork
11/18/16 2:52 p.m.

In reply to Coldsnap:

I think it is going to be another year or two before you see them in that price range. They are still going for $10k with 100k miles or more. I bought a 6 speed manual model in August and it is a blast to drive. Handles pretty well for a compact SUV and gets almost as good gas mileage as my Honda Fit did (low 30's).

Honda Fit was probably my favorite smaller car I have ever owned. The space that thing had was incredible. That magic seat in the back was pure gold.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/18/16 3:18 p.m.

Come on in, the best drive of your life is waiting...

Coldsnap
Coldsnap Dork
11/19/16 5:36 a.m.
92dxman wrote: In reply to Coldsnap: I think it is going to be another year or two before you see them in that price range. They are still going for $10k with 100k miles or more. I bought a 6 speed manual model in August and it is a blast to drive. Handles pretty well for a compact SUV and gets almost as good gas mileage as my Honda Fit did (low 30's). Honda Fit was probably my favorite smaller car I have ever owned. The space that thing had was incredible. That magic seat in the back was pure gold.

Oh nice, if I had to buy a newish car it would either be one of those two a fit or manual cx5. What one would you recommend for a single guy with no kids?

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