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NY535iManual
NY535iManual New Reader
5/8/13 10:50 a.m.

This was clearly not plug and play:

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/646433/1984-mazda-rx-7/page-7/

Hungary Bill
Hungary Bill GRM+ Memberand Dork
5/8/13 10:55 a.m.

and why didn't they post their build log!?!

yamaha
yamaha UltraDork
5/8/13 10:55 a.m.

I actually approve of that.....good job on it too.

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand Dork
5/8/13 11:01 a.m.

Why move the engine forward?

Also, does a 968 really handle and stop better than a 2nd gen?

The rear suspension looks VERY similar. I think they are both mac strut cars as well.

Overall, cool that they saved the 968. However, I think you could have a Mint 2nd gen vert for WAY less.

Rob R.

ArthurDent
ArthurDent HalfDork
5/8/13 11:03 a.m.

He has some other really cool builds including convertible 1st gen Rx-7s and three wheelers.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson UltraDork
5/8/13 11:06 a.m.

But, but, but, eeerrrrrr.........

OK it's well executed, but why swap a rotary into a car with a better more powerfull engine that uses less gas already, unless it's for crapo can racing where rotaries live for ever and run all day on fairy farts?!?!?!?!?

amg_rx7
amg_rx7 Dork
5/8/13 11:10 a.m.

I was thinking the same as Adrian but...

Cool builds indeed...

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
5/8/13 11:13 a.m.

In reply to Adrian_Thompson:

It probably makes sense if you have the parts in the garage already. 968 engines and transmissions aren't cheap, if you can find them.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson UltraDork
5/8/13 11:14 a.m.
BoxheadTim wrote: In reply to Adrian_Thompson: It probably makes sense if you have the parts in the garage already. 968 engines and transmissions aren't cheap, if you can find them.

Yes yes and we climbed Everest becuase it was there, not because it was a good idea!

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
5/8/13 11:15 a.m.

That's true also.

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
5/8/13 11:17 a.m.
wvumtnbkr wrote: Why move the engine forward? Also, does a 968 really handle and stop better than a 2nd gen? The rear suspension looks VERY similar. I think they are both mac strut cars as well. Overall, cool that they saved the 968. However, I think you could have a Mint 2nd gen vert for WAY less. Rob R.

968/944/924 handle better due to better weight balance (nearly 50/50) with slightly better geometry.

With that said, moving the engine forward was probably to help the balance and clear things.

bgkast
bgkast GRM+ Memberand Reader
5/8/13 11:31 a.m.

I like the air box!

cwaters
cwaters New Reader
5/8/13 12:44 p.m.

My Google foo is on the fritz, but wasn't the FC's weight about 50-50 f-r anyway?

Unless you had the parts lying around , time to burn, and no money to do otherwise, I don't see putting in an engine with less HP and more consumption.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UberDork
5/8/13 1:21 p.m.

I like it!

fidelity101
fidelity101 HalfDork
5/8/13 1:29 p.m.

In reply to Hungary Bill:

I know! how rude!

crankwalk
crankwalk GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
5/8/13 3:21 p.m.

I owned this one.

dculberson
dculberson UltraDork
5/8/13 3:35 p.m.
wvumtnbkr wrote: Why move the engine forward?

I'm sure it was to keep from having to cut the floor of the 968. Since they're rear transaxle cars there's no room for a transmission in the tunnel. They used the RX7 transmission and rear end so they had to make room somehow. I'm glad they didn't cut the 968, that makes it easier for someone to put a good engine in later.

crankwalk
crankwalk GRM+ Memberand Reader
5/8/13 3:51 p.m.
Adrian_Thompson wrote: But, but, but, eeerrrrrr......... OK it's well executed, but why swap a rotary into a car with a better more powerfull engine that uses less gas already, unless it's for crapo can racing where rotaries live for ever and run all day on fairy farts?!?!?!?!?

I mean if it was a turbo rotary it would make more sense to me but maybe that was the eventual plan who knows?

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand UberDork
5/8/13 3:59 p.m.

If I read it rite one of the reasons the engine was moved forward was to allow fitment of the trans. It looks like they used the RX trans not the 968 trans

singleslammer
singleslammer Dork
5/8/13 5:24 p.m.

I think that i would have adapted the Porsche transaxle to the rotary. Seems less work.

ransom
ransom GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
5/8/13 6:01 p.m.

I want to say "Kudos! Better than sitting on the couch!"

But I just can't get over the fact that at least in my mind, it was a huge amount of work for a serious downgrade.

I'm not a giant rotary nut, but when you combine that with moving to the forward transmission and all... There was so much work involved, I just don't see "I had the parts lying around" being a good enough reason not to acquire a more suitable engine and adapt it to the Porsche transaxle.

You know, keep the unique and really good aspects of the host car, and swap in an engine which is actually meaningfully better in some way than the original...

But that's just me (and a few other people in this thread). If they're happy with the result they've achieved, then it was a success.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UberDork
5/8/13 7:03 p.m.

Wankel haterz!

JtspellS
JtspellS Dork
5/8/13 7:10 p.m.

I like it, yes a bit biased but still.

Saying that I think not only the rotary should have a better home, the Porsche needs more on an engine to lug around the bit more heft that comes along with a euro car.

kanaric
kanaric New Reader
5/9/13 2:21 a.m.

I don't get this swap... the 3.0 i4 is just better. I would have rather of spent the money on a cratered engine FD and then swap another rotary into that lol.

2K4Kcsq
2K4Kcsq Reader
5/9/13 3:51 a.m.

the only part I don't like is the fact that it's a convertable. and i'm practically a purist when talking about engine swaps! still, 968's are my favorite porsche ever so it's cool in my book.

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