Whole bunch of news from Chrysler

We aren't sure if we will be selling/servicing Fryslers or Criats.

Good luck getting those Fiat diesels certified, apparently it is still nearly impossible. Maybe this new marriage will help it along but I doubt it.

Focus on selling the Cinco (Cincociento? I doubt Ford will give up the rights to the 500 name on this continent) and the Linea along with the current Avenger, Charger, Challenger, Journey, Caravan, Sprinter, Dodge Truck and Viper until the models phase out or the construction contracts are up.

Do not renew the Avenger, Challenger, Charger, Dakota, Durango or Sprinter. Design a "Full size" replacement for the Avenger and Charger that is all wheel drive or fwd using the Avengers "World" drivetrain.

SVreX wrote: Chrysler did pretty well the last ime they went through bankruptcy. Hair brained ideas have worked well for them consistently, so I guess the Fiat idea is as good as any.

No kidding. Who would've thought that turbocharging every 4 cylinder engine you had, instead of engineering new 6 cylinders like everyone else, would be a winning policy in the 80's?

They also invented the Minivan. A rolling box that hauls kids? Will that even sell?!

The Viper is a no brainer for car guys. We knew the valuable vein they were drilling there.

Pt Cruiser? Build an economy car that looks like an old school hot rod? Who wants a hot rod with barely 100 hp?

SVreX wrote: Chrysler did pretty well the last ime they went through bankruptcy. Hair brained ideas have worked well for them consistently, so I guess the Fiat idea is as good as any.

You know, that pretty well defines Chrysler and their remarkable survival strategy over the years. Years? Heck, it's been decades now.

I've never seen such a suicidal company live so long.

what happens when this deal goes through, Fiat and Chrysler and joined as one, and Fiat 124 and X19 owners start pouring into the service drive???

I want to know how a Fiat dealer is going to cope with a 69 Hemi Cuda in the service lane....It is probably too wide for their lift

Xceler8x wrote: Pt Cruiser? Build an economy car that looks like an old school hot rod?

What car were you looking at?

Shawn

aussiesmg wrote: I want to know how a Fiat dealer is going to cope with a 69 Hemi Cuda in the service lane....It is probably too wide for their lift

I want to know how ANY Chrysler dealer would cope witha '69 Hemi 'Cuda.

I doubt most dealer techs would even know what a point file looks like.

"Hey Reg!, get over here, there's no diagnostic port on this thing"

Shawn

Trans_Maro wrote:

aussiesmg wrote: I want to know how a Fiat dealer is going to cope with a 69 Hemi Cuda in the service lane....It is probably too wide for their lift

I want to know how ANY Chrysler dealer would cope witha '69 Hemi 'Cuda. I doubt most dealer techs would even know what a point file looks like. "Hey Reg!, get over here, there's no diagnostic port on this thing" Shawn

thats why you call up "ol T-Bone" to come in and give it alook....

I'd be more concerned about a B-body, like a daytona or superbird. You could probly put a ramp on the trunk and drive half the fiat line thrue the wing

Trans_Maro wrote:

Xceler8x wrote: Pt Cruiser? Build an economy car that looks like an old school hot rod?

What car were you looking at? Shawn

The Prowler?

psychic_mechanic wrote:

Trans_Maro wrote:

Xceler8x wrote: Pt Cruiser? Build an economy car that looks like an old school hot rod?

What car were you looking at? Shawn

The Prowler?

Don't judge me. I'm half blind because I learned to masturbate at the age of 5.

Dang, you started late.

"Chrysler's product plan calls for a subcompact hatchback from Fiat to enter the market late next year.

Chrysler could redesign the 500 a little and rebadge it as a Chrysler, but that probably wouldn't make a lot of sense."

News ive been waiting for!!!!

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2009/autos/0904/gallery.chrysler_fiat_product/2.html

Change the Fiat Badge to a pentastar, and the "500" badge to a neon badge, and change NOTHING else. The 500 totally captures the cute/cool that the Neon had and gave away.

foxtrapper wrote:

SVreX wrote: Chrysler did pretty well the last ime they went through bankruptcy. Hair brained ideas have worked well for them consistently, so I guess the Fiat idea is as good as any.

You know, that pretty well defines Chrysler and their remarkable survival strategy over the years. Years? Heck, it's been decades now. I've never seen such a suicidal company live so long.

Remember, Chrysler itself started when old Walter P was hired to reorganized the bankrupt Maxwell-Chalmers Motor Car Company back in 1924. So none of this is even remotely new for this company. ;)

Trans_Maro wrote:

Xceler8x wrote: Pt Cruiser? Build an economy car that looks like an old school hot rod?

What car were you looking at? Shawn

Mini '37 Ford sedan, which has been kind of the "family" hot rod for decades.

In fact, that's one of the reasons I liked my own PT Cruiser. I know a lot of people that have built PTs that look remarkably similar to this:

And while they are small, they have at least as much room inside as those '37s.

Change the Fiat Badge to a pentagram, change the 500 badge to "666," mount a set of fire-breathing goat horns to the hood, and I'll totally buy one tomorrow.

ficksed.

Will Ford Let Fi-ler use the 500?

Call it the Cinco, leave all the badges off.

Kia named the 5 door Rio Wagon the Cinco

But it was an option on a Rio versus Fords Five Hundred

The Ford was a "FIVE HUNDRED," not a "500."

Wowak wrote: The Ford was a "FIVE HUNDRED," not a "500."

THIS. Ford spelled it out, Fiat uses numbers. If Ford gets litigious at Fiatsler, they can say the official proncunication/spelling is "Cinquecento" and use it in their literature, and say "Fiat Five Hundred" is an unofficial nickname used by the public.

Besides, the Ford Five Hundred went over like a lead ballon in terms of sales. Maybe Ford won't care (yeah, right 9_9).

there is also the whole "heritage" thing. Fiat has been using the term "500" for How long?

I remember a number of years ago that Pontiac tried to sue BMW for the Kidney grill.. saying it was too like the split grills on their cars.. And Pontiac LOST because BMW had been using that adornment as a trademarked part of their cars since before the second war

RexSeven wrote:

Wowak wrote: The Ford was a "FIVE HUNDRED," not a "500."

THIS. Ford spelled it out, Fiat uses numbers. If Ford gets litigious at Fiatsler, they can say the official proncunication/spelling is "Cinquecento" and use it in their literature, and say "Fiat Five Hundred" is an unofficial nickname used by the public.

Here's a semi-obscure musical tie-in:

Lush--"500" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD04IQkAsAg dedicated to the Fiat 500

Plus, Miki Berenyi (redhead singer) made me rather happy in the trousers.

carguy123 wrote: Now the UAW owns a car company. Is that funny or is it tragic? Will they now finally get it that you can't just keep pushing costs up without an increase in features and quality or is this just the prelude to round 2 of Chrysler's demise only next time it takes down billions of dollars in taxpayers money?

It will not be run as a for-profit compnay. It will be run for the benefit of UAW.