On the list of what engines normally get swapped into old-school rides like mjlogan’s ’62 Ranchero, a 2.5-liter Duratec four-cylinder engine from a Ford Transit Connect probably isn’t very high on that list.
Why, then, chose a Duratec?
“My turbo LS drag racing buddies were in my ear about LS swapping this thing. Anyone who has been under …
An LS fits anywhere. But I love this. And still Ford pedigree.
I love a MAZDA engine going into a classic Ford.
Junghole said:I love a MAZDA engine going into a classic Ford.
Given it's from a Transit, it's not a Mazda engine- the separation of the two companies happened well before it was put into the Transit Connect. Even when it was shared, the development was shared. But I know that it's more popular to bash US car companies....
That's also a car that could benefit from a significant weight reduction on the front end. Even though the turbo added some weight back, it's still got to be a lot less than the cast iron lump.
I have no problem with cross pollination ( out of brand swaps) even though this is not by my standards. If the swap improves the overall driving experience I would call it a success. Most modern drive lines in older vehicles do just that. My first car a 1962 falcon wagon could have sure used this swap. Unfortunately that was not an option in 1973....
alfadriver said:Junghole said:I love a MAZDA engine going into a classic Ford.
Given it's from a Transit, it's not a Mazda engine- the separation of the two companies happened well before it was put into the Transit Connect. Even when it was shared, the development was shared. But I know that it's more popular to bash US car companies....
Incorrect. The Duratech 2.5 is a Mazda LF engine. No need to bash US car companies, they do quite a good job themselves. That wasn't what I came here to do. I actually like this idea of the engine in this chassis.
Open your mind before you open your mouth. https://www.google.com/amp/s/fordauthority.com/fmc/ford-motor-company-engines/ford-duratec-engine-family/ford-2-5l-duratec-engine/amp/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Transit_Connect
In reply to Junghole :
Dude, I worked on the team that developed that family of engines back in 2000. I know very much how much work we did at Ford and what Mazda did. Feel free to tell me what I did wasn't real, but it was. I was in meetings with engineers from Mazda, and I know the people in Dearborn who did our drawings and development.
That engine family was a very good one, and what we all did together was pretty amazing. But to pretend what we did was nothing, well, yea- that's not going to fly with me.
And it happened to end up being a very easy engine family to make PZEV, which was a huge deal 20 years ago.
As a matter of fact, back in 2003, we made a couple of turbo Duratecs- one that just had a turbo in the exhaust stream to test the heat loss, and the other in a Mondeo that was an actual boosted car. Pretty fun. *Almost* lead to a turbo Focus from SVT, but that didn't happen. But it also lead to a nice trip to visit Volvo about turbos.
To make this more tangent, I even "have" a 2018 Transit Connect development vehicle... Last used to project a 2024 version.
edit- I just looked at the wiki for the Mazda L, and it claims that the 2.0l Ecoboost based on the earlier Mazda LF- it was not. Very much was not. I know that someone looked into using the block, but other than that (if it was used), everything else was different- head, pistons, intake, etc- all designed around the DI system for our Ecoboost 2.0l family. We did have a Mazda 6 as an early DI development car (when we were working on the 3.5 GTDI) but things were changing so quickly, we didn't use much info from that work.
In reply to alfadriver :
Good to know. Sorry to call you a liar, I didn't realize you had a hand in this engine first hand. Had I known... but... this means there is a LOT of misinformation out there about this engine. Because all I can go off of is what the internet tells me.
In reply to Junghole :
It's all good. Seems that everyone here knows I'm a development engineer at Ford. For just 7 more months! Yay!!!
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