Will a Hyundai Genesis turbo blow up on me in a few years?

In reply to flatlander937:

Pretty sure from OP's last few posts he is adamant about having something with a warranty and isn't looking for a hardcore sports car, more of a comfortable coupe, so the GenCoupe should be a great choice IMO.

Yup!

Coldsnap wrote: ... I want the 2.0T model because I can get the basic one and be happy with that. However, I've never owned a turbo because I always associated them with being expensive to have serviced and can heat up and break eaisly. So I was possibly thinking about getting the 6cyl. However, the 6cyl comes with a bunch of crap I dont want like sat nav, leather seats, manual gearbox, moon roof, heated seats.

This isn't an '80s turbo Volvo. Turbocharger technology has come a long way. Water cooling and synthetic oil prevent oil coking. Dual ball bearings improve spool and reliability over cartridges. Modern metallurgy reduces the risk of thermal fatigue. Aluminum engine blocks and heads and modern antifreeze reduce heat soak. Modern ECUs utilize factory wideband O2 sensors and operate in closed loop 100% of the time after startup.

Sky_Render wrote:

Coldsnap wrote: ... I want the 2.0T model because I can get the basic one and be happy with that. However, I've never owned a turbo because I always associated them with being expensive to have serviced and can heat up and break eaisly. So I was possibly thinking about getting the 6cyl. However, the 6cyl comes with a bunch of crap I dont want like sat nav, leather seats, manual gearbox, moon roof, heated seats.

This isn't an '80s turbo Volvo. Turbocharger technology has come a long way. Water cooling and synthetic oil prevent oil coking. Dual ball bearings improve spool and reliability over cartridges. Modern metallurgy reduces the risk of thermal fatigue. Aluminum engine blocks and heads and modern antifreeze reduce heat soak. Modern ECUs utilize factory wideband O2 sensors and operate in closed loop 100% of the time after startup.

Gotcha. Seems like turbos have come a long ways since the 80s. Makes me feel better about the future..

Any car will have reliability issues if it's not taken care of. Conversely, just about any car can last 200k miles if it's properly taken care of.

The key on turbocharged cars is always using name-brand high octane (91+) even if the car can technically run on 87, regular 5,000 mile oil changes with good full-synthetic oil, and (this is my opinion here) changing the coolant religiously at no greater than 50k mile intervals.

Ah, interesting. One of the pluses for the Genesis was it could run on cheap fuel :P

So how come the genesis coupe doesn't have a safety rating other than rollover, while the FRS and BRZ have safty rating for everything?

In reply to Coldsnap:

Never run a turbo car on 87 octane, yes its safe because how much timing and boost engineers pull when it senses its on lower octane but if you want to run 87 get something low compression non turbo...like your p71 or its coupe brother mustang.

That said I take offense to the guy who said its "not an 80s turbo volvo" ive got an 88 turbo'd with over 250k miles still running great. But yes turbocharging has come a long way, watercooled cartridges have probaby helped the most mainly because ignorant drivers not changing oil enough and shuttind down a hot turbo. Water cooled keeps circulating after shutdown naturally.

Maybe you should look at a nissan altima coupe or accord coupe, sounds like you would never drive hard enough to notice the difference between fwd and rwd, they dont care if you want to run cheap gas

Yea, there's just something about the power delivery to RWD which I'm addicted to. It's my favorite thing about the Crown Victoria.

How is it any different if the tires never spin? Personally driving dads town car vs my girlfriends 08 accord coupe, the fwd handles way better..there's actually nothing inspiring to me about the panthers. Dont get me wrong I love rwd thats all i own but I think you should at least drive some sporty fwd cars, your mind will change im sure.

Yea, since I'm in no hurry I should check out a v6 Accord. Why not. I test drove a V4 Accord and thought OK but lordy was it gutless, doing a u turn and getting back up to 45mph I felt like I was writing a check it couldn't cash. I thought the interior was awful, but I could get over it. I then test drove a Golf VW and really liked that. It's what I learned how to drive manual on last week. So I can see the appeal of a bit more cylinders in a FWD. So I should try a V6 Accord, yea sure. It's a girls car to me, but no more of a girls car than a modern mustang.

Why not add a Civic SI and Abarth to the list.

My friends keep jabbing at me because I have $16k cash and want a car. They said they would have bought the first thing they saw. But I'm sort of having fun testing some stuff out, learning about it then trying other stuff.

My girlfriends accord is the inline 4, k24 and yes its completely gutless. The v6 has like 260 ish hp which is plenty considering the 4cyl is more like 170hp. I also agree with the civic si, im not much of a civic guy but I test drove an 08 4door si and I LOVED it! Lots of power and really sporty, the 6speed manual felt nice too

Im with you about testing everything, if im going to buy something its the best I can get. Test drive everything you can get your hands on, youll find true love eventually haha

Honda makes V4s for cars now?

Also, I will be downright shocked if you're into the Abarth.

Coldsnap wrote: HiTempguy what happened, from what I remember you were pretty positive on the Genesis.

The more I've been in my friends, the more I dislike it. And the 2013+ Genesis is 1) Way better looking (unless you are into the hair-dresser car style, in that case go forth and be "fabulous" ) and 2) The 2012 Genesis is SLOW, and the 2013 turbo genesis even with everything done is still pretty slow (probably high 13/low 14 second car).

Buying new its a bargain and a half for what you get. Buying used I don't think they are. When a 2013+ is $10k, it will be a screaming deal.

I don't fit comfortably in the FRS/BRZ so they were out. The Gen Coupe's are still too much monies for me used so I don't have one. Yet. We'll see. The features/dollars on the GC is just beter IMO. The fit/finish is good, and with decent tires on real width wheels it has tons more "feel" to me. Drove them stock and with a set of 275 square RE-11a's on 10" wide wheels and it was so much nicer. For a cruiser, hard to beat it IMO. The Frisbee twins will be faster on an auto-x course but they're not going to be the car you love taking cross country or live with day to day.

Here's a '13 for $14k: http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/642108052/overview/

In reply to chiodos: Test drive an 00s Taurus and a Crown Vic back to back. The chassis is better balanced and the power is felt through the rear of the car. It rotates around corners better when just putting through them. The Panther is a somewhat nice driving big sedan, that's all.

In reply to Coldsnap: Test driving everything is much better than just buying the first thing you see like your friends say.

In reply to Mr_Clutch42:

Apples to oranges man, I could say compare a 2000 focus svt to a 2000 panther.

So I test drove a v6 accord and a civic si. Didn't like either, the honda accord was just EH and expensive. It was a smooth ride and there was some power when you absolutely floored it. I think if I was buying a car for my wife who didn't need the extra cargo, that would be a good one (although I did just help the girlfriend buy a mazda 3 hatch). The SI I dunno, it's expensive... I just dont think I like the huge dashboards of Honda, for some reason it's really off putting to me. I think if I bought a honda I would just succumb to my rational side and just buy a basic ass Civic. That's appealing to me, but sort of not.

Now back to sports car. Hopped over to the Hyundai dealership and test drove another genesis coupe, a 2013 turbo. I have yet to try the 3.8 v6. Still really like this car. I'm sort of a slow driver, so around town I'm just driving it around like a comfortable large coupe with a 4cyl. But when I wana step on it, if no ones around and it seems safe to, I do and it's nice to know that the boost of the turbo is there. Around town I would probably never even use the boost of the turbo, as I said I have a light foot when it comes to driving. I like to "cruise" but then put the pedal down every once and awhile.

I sort of want to try a coupe or something that's "fun" within the speedlimit. As my daily driving needs are not on the interstate. I take really short trips, like 5-10 miles or so. I tried a miata the low ride height was just too small feeling for me. Maybe I should try an Abarth. Most of fords offering are 4 door.. So hmm..

Sounds like driving habits perfect for loads of carbon buildup.

Google carbon buildup on direct injected engines. It will need manually cleaned occasionally, and I'd be surprised if warranty covers it. Just FYI. Its not a huge deal if you're expecting it/plan for it.

Yep, turbo cars need their legs stretched often expecially direct injection.

Actually im a firm beliver in everything getting a weekly/daily italian tuneup.

Well damn. Maybe an Abarth would be worthwhile to check. Small enough so you can use the turbo around town.

In reply to chiodos: I disagree. The Taurus and the Crown Vic are both big (or fairly big) sedans engineered to commute. It's harder to pick a better FWD vs. RWD car comparison.

Sounds like you have your mind set. The Honda dash grows on your after a while. I hated it at first and now miss it driving an STI.

What about a 370z? You can find those in your price range, they come in auto, 300+hp, RWD, etc. Or are the G37s depreciating more than the 370s? There are oil pickup issues on the earlier 370zs if you track them, sounds like you won't though.

I've got a lil voice inside my head saying go try the Abarth. I never drive on the highway and for longer trips we can take my girlfriends mazda 3. I could rip up town in the Abarth or something similar while having fun within the speed limit. Driving the genesis around today almost felt like overkill, not much you can do in 45mph when you have 250hp+.