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Contradiction
Contradiction Reader
2/29/16 9:27 a.m.

Their product is too small and it's too much of a niche market for America. When Mini came here it was a svelte, compact, driver's car that also appealed to the "Oh, it's so cute!" hairdresser crowd.

Then over time the later started to say "I like my Mini but it's just too small" and the Mini went from being a long distance runner to a track team drop out in college that packed on more then the Freshman 15. The present Minis have lost all of their appeal to me and they just look like a bloated version of the first gens.

If you want to sell a "small car" then you need it to be a small car and you need to appeal to traditional small car buyers. People that want a light, nimble car, with good driving manners or people that want something compact with good gas mileage that's easy to park and maneuver.
Europeans accept the later out of necessity. America isn't full of crowded cobblestone streets and narrow alleys like Europe, it's all freeways and suburbs. You can either chose to be the bug or the windshield on the freeway here, and most people would rather be in that gigantic SUV or truck then driving a 500/Smart Car that looks and would act like a hockey puck in an accident. People that have absolutely no reason to really be driving an SUV (several passengers, towing capacity, cargo room, need for 4WD) do so anyway just because they think "BIG=safe". The majority of the American public will take the Big=safe theory and a higher forward visibility driving position so they can see around the rest of the damn SUVs around them on the road.

If Fiat is going to survive here they need to get the Alfas here and present something in their regular lineup that will appeal to American consumers.

Kreb
Kreb GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
2/29/16 10:26 a.m.

Let's not forget that gas prices have been steadily dropping since they came back. That's just bad luck/timing. Meanwhile Ford has FOUR new SUVs in the pipeline. (Not that I particularly welcome that fact, but nobody can claim that Ford doesn't understand the market).

The issues about parts availability have to be just infuriating. That's simply a reflection of arrogance. Memo to Fiat: You aren't good enough to be arrogant.

Powar
Powar UltraDork
2/29/16 12:12 p.m.

I doubt they're going to make it this time, but I want them to. Our 47k mile 500 has been near flawless and continues to serve us very well. Our local dealer closed at the end of last year, despite there being a ton of the cars on the road in this town. I wasn't planning to take the car there any more unless it broke within the next 3k miles of warranty anyway. Their service department was deplorable, which echoes what I've read from other owners around the country.

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