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kabel
kabel Dork
5/8/12 4:26 p.m.

It should be noted too that Matt (miata in the first post) also shaved/filled/smoothed all of the engine bay surfaces for an even cleaner look.

JohnyHachi6
JohnyHachi6 Reader
5/8/12 4:43 p.m.
dyintorace wrote:

I think a nice clean engine bay is pretty slick too, but to me this screams "I NEEDS MORE ENGINE"... It just highlights that the car has a dinky little 4-banger where you could plop a nice big V8!

pimpm3
pimpm3 Reader
5/8/12 4:53 p.m.

BMW inline 6 engines are easy to tuck because they come that way from the factory.

I need to get a better picture but this is the best one I have at work of the RX7, I had it tucked sort of... Not like the Miata by any means that engine bay is beautiful.

Nashco
Nashco UltraDork
5/8/12 8:46 p.m.
Javelin wrote: You guys are missing that the main clean up going on here is *deletion of systems*, not wiring tucks. The brakes are now manual, there's no A/C or heat, the washer system is gone, the emissions equipment have all been removed, etc, etc. The "wiring tuck" is about 5% of that clean-up.

This. Deleting parts is the easiest way to clean up the engine bay/whatever. Sure, when you get really clean you will have to rework harnesses, but 80% of visual clean up work for project cars is eliminating components that aren't critical and hiding/disguising the few remaining ones that are, IMO.

Bryce

Nashco
Nashco UltraDork
5/8/12 8:50 p.m.

Oh, and to support my claim, here's an example of a car where I replaced the engine with a radiator and did a very minor wire tuck...you know, to clean up under the hood:

Bryce

MG Bryan
MG Bryan SuperDork
5/8/12 8:53 p.m.
JohnyHachi6 wrote:
dyintorace wrote:
I think a nice clean engine bay is pretty slick too, but to me this screams "I NEEDS MORE ENGINE"... It just highlights that the car has a dinky little 4-banger where you could plop a nice big V8!

Negative. What it's screaming for is a huge berkeleying turbo.

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
5/8/12 9:01 p.m.
MG Bryan wrote:
JohnyHachi6 wrote:
dyintorace wrote:
I think a nice clean engine bay is pretty slick too, but to me this screams "I NEEDS MORE ENGINE"... It just highlights that the car has a dinky little 4-banger where you could plop a nice big V8!
Negative. What it's screaming for is a huge berkeleying turbo.

Negative. What that's screaming is to be sold to someone that will drive it in anger.

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro SuperDork
5/8/12 9:04 p.m.
pimpm3 wrote: BMW inline 6 engines are easy to tuck because they come that way from the factory. I need to get a better picture but this is the best one I have at work of the RX7, I had it tucked sort of... Not like the Miata by any means that engine bay is beautiful.

Miles of plastic engine cover is cheating.

kabel
kabel Dork
5/8/12 9:27 p.m.

the miata is too low to drive angry… + Matt does have a motor swap planned for the near future iirc. and there is very little wiring under that bmw plastic, now what is under the intake manifold, well that's a different story…

pimpm3
pimpm3 Reader
5/8/12 9:32 p.m.

Feedyurhed
Feedyurhed Dork
5/8/12 9:45 p.m.
Ranger50 wrote:

This is all sort of new to me but I am really digging it.

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro SuperDork
5/8/12 9:45 p.m.

Almost like a V-12 jag...

Pour the parts in and trowel it flat.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/8/12 9:52 p.m.
Feedyurhed wrote:
Ranger50 wrote:
This is all sort of new to me but I am really digging it.

if only more Vdubs looked that clean

Anti-stance
Anti-stance HalfDork
5/8/12 9:58 p.m.
mad_machine wrote:
Feedyurhed wrote:
Ranger50 wrote:
This is all sort of new to me but I am really digging it.
if only more Vdubs looked that clean

Stance... thats all I see when I see VWs anymore.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
5/8/12 10:19 p.m.

Fit_Is_Slo
Fit_Is_Slo HalfDork
5/8/12 11:10 p.m.

I'll take heater, ac, being able to pass an emissions test

novaderrik
novaderrik SuperDork
5/9/12 12:51 a.m.
MG Bryan wrote:
JohnyHachi6 wrote:
dyintorace wrote:
I think a nice clean engine bay is pretty slick too, but to me this screams "I NEEDS MORE ENGINE"... It just highlights that the car has a dinky little 4-banger where you could plop a nice big V8!
Negative. What it's screaming for is a huge berkeleying turbo.

why does this have to be an either/or proposition?

ScottRA21
ScottRA21 Reader
5/9/12 2:37 a.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:

Okay....I know this is stupid of me, but I gotta admit that I am digging the transparent pipes on the top one. Gotta be heavier, and I'd worry about heating it up too much on a "driving" car....but I do still like the look of it.

The second one: Why do people pull their front bumper? What does this show? Is there a point to it? If there is, I really am missing it.

novaderrik
novaderrik SuperDork
5/9/12 4:00 a.m.
ScottRA21 wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
Okay....I know this is stupid of me, but I gotta admit that I am digging the transparent pipes on the top one. Gotta be heavier, and I'd worry about heating it up too much on a "driving" car....but I do still like the look of it. The second one: Why do people pull their front bumper? What does this show? Is there a point to it? If there is, I really am missing it.

why do the wanna-be drifters use zip ties to hold perfectly good body panels on the car?

it's a part of the image, yo..

Raze
Raze SuperDork
5/9/12 6:12 a.m.

I'm not a fan, but I'm more of a Hella Functional over Hella Flush kinda guy, to each their own...

failboat
failboat Dork
5/9/12 6:38 a.m.
novaderrik wrote: why do the wanna-be drifters use zip ties to hold perfectly good body panels on the car? it's a part of the image, yo..

so when they inevitably bump into something, the whole bumper/side skirt pops off easily in one piece, instead of being held on tightly by a factory mount, possibly causing the bumper/skirt to crack or get ripped apart in an impact.

Feedyurhed
Feedyurhed Dork
5/9/12 7:23 a.m.

I like it!! It's already got me thinking...............the RX7 could stand to lose some parts and a a nice shiny rotary could look pretty sweet just sitting in there. Anybody have any more pics and rotaries in particular?

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
5/9/12 7:53 a.m.
ScottRA21 wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
Okay....I know this is stupid of me, but I gotta admit that I am digging the transparent pipes on the top one. Gotta be heavier, and I'd worry about heating it up too much on a "driving" car....but I do still like the look of it. The second one: Why do people pull their front bumper? What does this show? Is there a point to it? If there is, I really am missing it.

I'm guessing it might have to do with showing what's behind there. If i were to do a tuck, i'd probably half ass it and tuck whatever i could underneath the bumper. I pull my bumper, it looks terrible. Also, it seems his radiator routing stuff is pretty slick.

alfadriver
alfadriver UberDork
5/9/12 8:00 a.m.
Javelin wrote: You guys are missing that the main clean up going on here is *deletion of systems*, not wiring tucks. The brakes are now manual, there's no A/C or heat, the washer system is gone, the emissions equipment have all been removed, etc, etc. The "wiring tuck" is about 5% of that clean-up.

Took a while for this to be posted up.

It makes me wonder, though- if you are going to go through all of that effort, you would think that he would have re-done a lot of the base engine as well. Say to COP's to get rid of the coil pack, and maybe even a different cam cover, to relocate the PCV system. Or modify the throttle to hide the throttle cable. Or even put on a completely different intake- throttle bodys are arguably better looking than a manifold....

it's cool, and all. But if you are going to get rid of that much stuff, why not keep going?

Anti-stance
Anti-stance HalfDork
5/9/12 8:09 a.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:

Damn dude, look at the "rollcage" in this car. looks like someone dumped an entire bucket of large erector set bars in there.

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