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MG Bryan
MG Bryan HalfDork
12/14/11 7:32 p.m.
Keith wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote: Yup, definitely written by a non-car guy. '94. 1996 Ariel Atom: Its nickname is the "woman repellent." Perfect for the track, utter misery on any road. A helmet isn't just for safety; it's the driver's roof, windshield and HVAC system. Helmet also keeps anyone you know from seeing you drive it.' Lesley, are they really a 'woman repellent?' And as noted he/she/it skips right over the Tempo.
That is just about a 100% accurate description of the Ariel Atom. I'll still buy one as soon as they are cheaper than a Hyabusa.
Well, it's accurate until you get to the "perfect for the track" part There are better track cars for less money. There are much better street cars. But there aren't any better cars if you want to give YouTube viewers wood. The list is to get attention and discussion and drive pageviews, which means money from advertisers. So it was a 100% successful list.

Keith hit the nail on the head. The author succeeded in doing what he set out to do - provide his editor with something to publish. He clearly got by without much thought or effort as all he did was amass a bunch of stereotypes and misconceptions.

It doesn't bother me anymore than a lot of the crap that Jeremy Clarkson spews on Top Gear.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon SuperDork
12/14/11 7:45 p.m.

If that's the measure of success, then going by the E36 M3storm I started with my comment I'm probably as talented a writer as he is.

MG Bryan
MG Bryan HalfDork
12/14/11 7:52 p.m.

In reply to Curmudgeon:

Oh I definitely don't think he's talented. If he had talent, he would have made that bullE36 M3 seem funny.

egoman
egoman New Reader
12/14/11 8:02 p.m.

The saleen is on the list, the solstice, what the haylll this guy makes several of the cars I had or wished to have seem like they were BAAAAD. Honestly this guy is a little off base.

frankenstangsghost
frankenstangsghost New Reader
12/14/11 8:09 p.m.
SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Everytime I see one of these and the Corvair is listed because of its "Swing Axle" I want to bash them in the face with a tire iron. Really? Then where is the Beetle or Mercedes SL300 on that list?

Not mention the Triumph Herald or Spitfire. Push one of those around some time... Kinda fun, actually.

corytate
corytate HalfDork
12/14/11 8:40 p.m.

in order to compile this list, they just googled 'crappy car" and wrote down what popped up according to some stupid people;s opinions. Oftentimes, the cars listed weren't the crappy car in the subject, but they didn't read that far in. They had to google image search most of the cars listed to know remotely what they were, especially, the xt and the atom.
this is my opinion, at least.

corytate
corytate HalfDork
12/14/11 8:41 p.m.

someone should make a 100 worst car lists list. lol. post it on hooniverse.

irish44j
irish44j Dork
12/14/11 8:56 p.m.

list created by a guy who drives a Camry, most likely.

some of the cars are deserving of it. Many others, clearly not.

And as mentioned someplace above, I don't see a Ford Tempo on it, so therefore the entire list is invalid.

irish44j
irish44j Dork
12/14/11 9:02 p.m.
frankenstangsghost wrote: "1980 Rover 3500: Powered by a 133-hp 3.5-liter V8 set adrift by Buick." Really? The 3500 may have sucked as a car, but why bash the motor? Stupid thing was built for 40+ years. Must have sucked pretty bad. And no mention of the Stag? The author is clueless. Just my 2 cents. That said, I've always wanted a Fuego...

All lists like this have a hard-on for horsepower. They seem amazed that a straight-6 in the 1970s might have only put out 100hp (when a 2.0L 4-banger these days can put out twice that).

The Biturbo was a crappy car in many ways, but calling its 185-hp engine wimpy......in 1981? In 1981, that was alot of power for non-muscle cars. My 1987 Integra had like 120hp and I considered it to be a "quick" car.... ' btw...

  1. 1970 Triumph Stag: Seemingly infinite problems with its 3.0-liter SOHC V8 engine and dim Lucas electric parts made this Michelotti-designed four-seat roadster a poster child for British Leyland ineptitude
DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 SuperDork
12/14/11 9:43 p.m.
tards who made this list said: 2005 Pontiac Grand Prix GXP: Shoving a 303-horsepower, 5.3-liter LS4 V8 into the front-drive Grand Prix was silly. Having front tires wider than the rears was just plain stupid. | December 9, 2011 | General Motors Corporatio

So when I autox with wider front tires than rear to decrease both weight and rolling resistance it's stupid? Adds grip up front too.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 SuperDork
12/14/11 9:44 p.m.

Also seems like they hate American cars.

Aeromoto
Aeromoto Reader
12/14/11 9:47 p.m.

My vote for the worst car of all time is the DeLorean. Overrated, underpowered, underwhelming, and cobbled together out of other carmaker's cast-off parts. Truly vomit on 4 wheels.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/14/11 10:03 p.m.
MG Bryan wrote: It doesn't bother me anymore than a lot of the crap that Jeremy Clarkson spews on Top Gear.

At least Clarkson is funny

MG Bryan
MG Bryan HalfDork
12/14/11 10:15 p.m.
mad_machine wrote:
MG Bryan wrote: It doesn't bother me anymore than a lot of the crap that Jeremy Clarkson spews on Top Gear.
At least Clarkson is funny

I think he's hilarious, but I think he has talent in his delivery. I was just using him to illustrate the importance of how one says what ones says. A better written could have made that same crappy list in the firs post funny, and we'd probably have complained a lot less.

irish44j
irish44j Dork
12/14/11 10:30 p.m.
Aeromoto wrote: My vote for the worst car of all time is the DeLorean. Overrated, underpowered, underwhelming, and cobbled together out of other carmaker's cast-off parts. Truly vomit on 4 wheels.

A guy I went to college with had a DeLorean. His car was his discussion starter and to college girls it just looked like a famous movie car with cool gullwing doors and a stainless steel "paintjob." He got laid more than anyone I've ever known.

There are alot of cars out there that are overrated, underpowered, underwhelming, and cobbled together out of other carmaker's cast-off parts. Almost all of them are unremarkable, unrecognizable boxes that will be forgotten a decade after they rust away.

DeLorian can't be on the list at all. It was a terrible car, but it was a great cultural/art piece that cannot be forgotten and cannot rust away into oblivion.

Vigo
Vigo SuperDork
12/14/11 11:11 p.m.

I actually think the Delorean was a really good effort. The way it's constructed was ahead of its time.

Frankly, if they had had even 200hp, almost noone would complain about them. I think a lot of the disdain for the delorean is based on the "hard on for horsepower" effect.

Grizz
Grizz HalfDork
12/14/11 11:58 p.m.

I'm amazed the La Femme was on the list. An obscure one year marketing gimmik of a car most people don't even know exist?

Hell, it's not even a car, it's essentially an over the top trim package. The Lancer was still a great car, painting it pink doesn't change that.

Two references to AMCs "ancient 6" without mentioning that it was a ridiculously good motor.

Pretty much all cars from the 70s are terribly built and rust prone, so that knocks all the 70 cars off the list that are on there for that specific reason. The Aspen can stay though.

The 79 MB td is bad simply because it's slow, ignoring it's reliability or looks.

And I almost bought and still want a 78 Challenger, so they can kiss my ass.

DaewooOfDeath
DaewooOfDeath HalfDork
12/15/11 12:22 a.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: 100% correct about the Bronco II, the Chevette, Vega, and Mustang II. All utter crap that I have used as primary transport at one point or another.

Slightly off topic but, the Mustang II with the biggest possible tires and weight reduction is the best handling and most competitive short track muscle car in Forza 4.

oldopelguy
oldopelguy Dork
12/15/11 1:38 a.m.

Aspire made it but not Festiva? This guy never drove any of those cars. I bet I currently own more cars than the writer has ever driven.

Mazdax605
Mazdax605 Dork
12/15/11 3:53 a.m.
Grizz wrote: And I almost bought and still want a 78 Challenger, so they can kiss my ass.

Your in luck I have an 83 Sapporo for sale!! Same car really. Hit me with a PM for details.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt SuperDork
12/15/11 7:42 a.m.

I agree with Keith - the list is more trolling for readers and responses than anything else. At that, it succeeded.

DirtyBird222 wrote:
tards who made this list said: 2005 Pontiac Grand Prix GXP: Shoving a 303-horsepower, 5.3-liter LS4 V8 into the front-drive Grand Prix was silly. Having front tires wider than the rears was just plain stupid. | December 9, 2011 | General Motors Corporatio
So when I autox with wider front tires than rear to decrease both weight and rolling resistance it's stupid? Adds grip up front too.

That one jumped out at me too. On most front wheel drive cars, having the rear tires wider than the front would have been just plain stupid. Reverse stagger on a front wheel drive, nose heavy car that's meant to handle makes perfect sense.

Otto Maddox
Otto Maddox Dork
12/15/11 7:56 a.m.

I think the people saying the author isn't a car guy hasn't read the explanation provided with each car.

And I still haven't heard a good defense of any car on the list.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
12/15/11 8:04 a.m.
DaewooOfDeath wrote: Slightly off topic but, the Mustang II with the biggest possible tires and weight reduction is the best handling and most competitive short track muscle car in Forza 4.

I am sure that even if I got another real, rust free one - there isn't much that huge box flares, suspension, cage, massive rubber and a new powertrain couldn't fix.

In fact, applying this formula tot he entire list is a great way to fix them all. Except the Atom. That just needs to be as cheap as a home-made Lotus 7 knock-off and be less ugly.

Otto Maddox
Otto Maddox Dork
12/15/11 8:07 a.m.

In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:

What about the Saleen? Sure, I like it. But isn't it more or less a Mosler for a large multiple of the price of a Mosler?

stuart in mn
stuart in mn SuperDork
12/15/11 8:30 a.m.
MadScientistMatt wrote: I agree with Keith - the list is more trolling for readers and responses than anything else. At that, it succeeded.

I think that's the case for 99% of all online best or worst lists. I don't even bother clicking on the links anymore.

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