You can’t convince me that I-4 isn’t the worst road ever

Ian F (Forum Supporter) said:

Lof8 - Andy said:

#1 Deadlist Road, 2021

I drive it frequently.  Its always terrible, its always under construction.  I do everything I can to avoid it when possible.

That website won't load, so you're going to have to give me a hint... 

I-4 sounds like an average day on the PATP or I-95 through PA.  The speed limit is a mere suggestion... at least on the TP it's 70 MPH, so when the flow of traffic is 90 the slower lanes don't seem as out of place. The 55 limit on 95 is laughable. On the rare occasion there's a State Trooper, they won't even look at you unless you're doing over 70.  Getting passed by someone doing 100+ isn't uncommon. In my younger days, that someone was often me.  To be honest, the problem is usually out-of-state drivers who don't understand how fast PA drivers can be. 

On the plus side, we don't have to worry about anyone passing in the left breakdown lane... since that lane doesn't exist on either road. 

The turnpike and 95 in PA are a berkeleying dream compared to I4.  I moved up to West Chester for for work for a few years so I am very familiar with both.

Also worth noting....Florida doesn't require safety inspections.  Heck, they don't even inspect the VIN for vehicles worth a Florida title.  

In reply to Hoondavan :

Shhhh ... don't give away all of our secrets.  The NY and PA tags will overtake us.

Stampie said:

In reply to Hoondavan :

Shhhh ... don't give away all of our secrets.  The NY and PA tags will overtake us.

I thought they were already here?  I heard the city council is working on changing the name Tampa to Greater New York. 

RonnieFnD said:

Stampie said:

In reply to Hoondavan :

Shhhh ... don't give away all of our secrets.  The NY and PA tags will overtake us.

I thought they were already here?  I heard the city council is working on changing the name Tampa to Greater New York. 

Well...at least the cost of living isn't considered cheap anymore, that should slow down the migration at least a little bit right?  Oh year, that and sea level rise, ocean warming + hurricanes, uber-expensive car insurnace due to PIP scams and terrible drivers, uber-expensive home insurance (hurricanes), sinkholes, alligators, crocodiles, man-eating snakes, and the abundance of shifty characters and con-artists.  GIANT SPIDERS, termites, cockroaches, generally massive bugs.  Most of the state has zero elevation change and no curvy roads.

Also, FLORIDA MAN

I've personally witnessed more accidents since moving to the Tampa area than I have in the entirety of the rest of my life.  Including when I was deployed.  Those guys like to bump the guy in front of them when they're going too slow.

Meme not related to I-4, but relevant

In reply to Mr_Asa 

Good representation there.

And since the DC beltway is partially in Maryland, correct.

David S. Wallens said:

Heading west into Orlando, so around Lake Mary, there’s an illuminated sign almost always warning of STOPPED TRAFFIC AHEAD.

Do people see the sign and check up? Somewhere there’s a psychology experiment in here. 

It's the vehicular equivalent of the voicemail announcement to "Please listen carefully, because our menu options have recently changed."

No they berking haven't; that's a lie.  You're just trying to trick me into paying attention.

Ian F (Forum Supporter) said:

To be honest, the problem is usually out-of-state drivers who don't understand how fast PA drivers can be.

That's because y'all immediately default to 10 under as soon as you cross the state line out of Pennsylvania.

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) said:

also, i-85 through Greenville SC is a bit of a nightmare as well

Funny that we both know Detroit AND Greenville SC.  I concur about I85... 

Nah.  285 around ATL is it.  Altimas everywhere, performing amazing feats of life endangerment at every turn.

The positive is that there are so many wrecks at every hour, the cops don't have time to stop speeders (vicious circle).

In reply to rustomatic :

I saw two Altimas trying out Altima each other today and I'm 6 hrs from Atlanta.  Atlanta is something else....

Noddaz said:

In reply to Mr_Asa 

Good representation there.

And since the DC beltway is partially in Maryland, correct.

Needs moar speeding ticket from officious cop in the Virginia panel.

Mr_Asa said:

I've personally witnessed more accidents since moving to the Tampa area than I have in the entirety of the rest of my life.  Including when I was deployed.  Those guys like to bump the guy in front of them when they're going too slow.

 

Meme not related to I-4, but relevant

Shiny and chrome, baby. That's why we do drugs. It's just so we can drive to work. 

rustomatic said:

Nah.  285 around ATL is it.  Altimas everywhere, performing amazing feats of life endangerment at every turn.

The positive is that there are so many wrecks at every hour, the cops don't have time to stop speeders (vicious circle).

Way, way back in the day, I knew a dude who said he was building “a race car.”

What kind? I asked. Figured it was for an SCCA class or something.

A 285 race car, he replied. 

In reply to David S. Wallens :

Y'know, that's an option i've joked about in the past. What would I build for I-4. Now, the asshat in me said m35a2 with a Chrysler Imperial body- very Mad Max indeed. But- Ma deuce only goes 45mph. She will ALWAYS go 45mph, but.... that's not I-4 material.

I DO, however- possess a derelict, and very much worthless to anyone but me......2007 Mazdaspeed3. We've talked about this car many many moons ago. I'm the idiot that did the front sway install on the ground in a friends driveway. Violently unpleasant, that. I think i'd almost remarry my ex-wife before doing that job again. 

What if.... it were shiny and chrome? Not full on war boy wagon with spikes and stuff, but what if I designed it with battle on I-4 in mind? I'm already strongly considering going 6" or so the opposite direction from where it sits now (roughly 3" lower than stock, if memory serves). You can 3d print and laser cut and whatever damn near anything these days.......

Looks like I’m doing a photo shoot Sunday in Orlando.

Wish me luck. 

I will witness you. 

FWIW, I only have to get to Princeton. 

Mndsm said:

In reply to David S. Wallens :

Y'know, that's an option i've joked about in the past. What would I build for I-4. Now, the asshat in me said m35a2 with a Chrysler Imperial body- very Mad Max indeed. But- Ma deuce only goes 45mph. She will ALWAYS go 45mph, but.... that's not I-4 material.

Truck.  Old truck. Ford, Chevy, Dodge, doesn't matter.  Big ole engine.  Auto trans.
I-beam bumpers fore and aft that stick out at least 6" past the body on each side.  Minimum beam size of something like a W14 x 61

Mndsm said:

I will witness you. 

WITNESS!

Mr_Asa said:

Mndsm said:

In reply to David S. Wallens :

Y'know, that's an option i've joked about in the past. What would I build for I-4. Now, the asshat in me said m35a2 with a Chrysler Imperial body- very Mad Max indeed. But- Ma deuce only goes 45mph. She will ALWAYS go 45mph, but.... that's not I-4 material.

Truck.  Old truck. Ford, Chevy, Dodge, doesn't matter.  Big ole engine.  Auto trans.
I-beam bumpers fore and aft that stick out at least 6" past the body on each side.  Minimum beam size of something like a W14 x 61

Mpg is a concern. Doesn't matter if you're going 2 exits or Tampa to Daytona, gonna take you 3 hours. I could Diesel, but Florida man tax. There IS the concept of a 6bt mech ramcharger but.....

Made it home alive, but I-4‘s gonna I-4.

Not bad going in. I was following a silver Boxster into town. We’re in the left lane moving along just fine. Middle and right lanes also full but not moving as quickly.

Nondescript silver-ish car passes both of us on the right and, somehow, slices just in front of the Boxster. I let out an audible gasp and I don’t know how we didn’t have metal-on-metal. No brake lights from the Boxster. 

After making the pass, silver-ish car then goes all the way to the right lane and repeats.

This is when the silver Altima behind me went into Altima mode and did the same. 

Fortunately, very soon after I hit the I-4 Express lane. 

I got off at Ivanhoe and saw, I kid you not, a dude entering the I-4 on-ramp on an old-school minibike. He was wearing a helmet, so I guess it’s okay. 

Not nearly as crazy coming home but lots of cars in both directions. There was a wreck on I-95 just north of I-4, and I got tied up in that. 

Had fun in Orlando but good to be home.  

In reply to David S. Wallens :

We were travelling I-4 near camping world and saw a squad pulled over and lit up. Saw the officer out and talking to someone. Realized that someone did not have a vehicle. ANYWHERE. Apparently we were just out for a stroll. I-4 things. 

In reply to Mndsm :

Maybe it was my dude with the minibike.