Unfortunate turn of events, but it clearly was something, but I agree not a cross-check. I think it should have been a penalty shot as well. Awesome passing by the Canadians on the GWG!! Feel bad for the US team, but silver is nothing to sneeze at. They should be proud.
Looking forward to the mens game tomorrow. Too bad I will be working while it is live.
In reply to mtn: I agree with most of your points. The calls were weak going both ways. They really should have four officials on ice, and/or higher level officials. The breakaway call was weak, I think their feet contacted and down she went. I'm not a ref, so I'll defer to you on what that should have been called, if called at all. The four on four was adopted some time ago by the IIHF,I think after the NHL started doing it. I'm also Canadian, so the outcome pleases me, but I don't feel good about the ref having influenced the game as much as she did.
Cross-posted from hotlink thread for relevance. There is just too. much. at. stake.
DeadSkunk wrote: In reply to mtn: I agree with most of your points. The calls were weak going both ways. They really should have four officials on ice, and/or higher level officials. The breakaway call was weak, I think their feet contacted and down she went. I'm not a ref, so I'll defer to you on what that should have been called, if called at all. The four on four was adopted some time ago by the IIHF,I think after the NHL started doing it. I'm also Canadian, so the outcome pleases me, but I don't feel good about the ref having influenced the game as much as she did.
If that is the case and their feet collided, it absolutely should have been called a trip. And it absolutely should have been a penalty shot, because in no angle that I saw (2) did the infraction not come from behind!
As to 3 or 4 officials, the 3 official system can work very well for this caliber of hockey--but they need to have 1 linesman and 2 referees.
As to the officials themselves, I know one ref in those games--Honestly, I'm not all that impressed by her. I think the big thing was just the lack of speed. A very good friend of mine has reffed college games with her, and said the same thing--she just wasn't fast enough to keep up.
EDIT: My defense of the reffing: They did not determine the outcome. US had a 2 goal lead so late in the game, and they gave that up.
In reply to Basil Exposition:
No you keep,we truly don't want him back.
Anyways, that first penalty on Canada. Definitely a penalty in the first period, almost certainly in the second period, maybe in the 3rd... but by overtime, I don't think I'm calling that. So maybe that explained the extremely weak call on the slash, because that wouldn't have been called in the first period if I'm reffing that game.
Apparently the Americans were told earlier in the game, "if you do that again, you're going to the box ".
The game tomorrow could be interesting. The American men's team have been flying, and the Canadians, which were supposed to be the strongest offensive team in the tournament haven't been able to score. Anything can happen in a one game playoff.
So apparently the Russian winner of the Free Skate last night has already stirred up a controversy. I actually thought she did a better job than the Korean.
What do I know about figure skating?
Flight Service wrote: What do I know about figure skating?
I know it's not bad to watch 
Basil Exposition wrote:
Looks like he'll have to pay those Miami speeding tickets after all.
I'm not much go a hockey fan, but I really dig Olympic hockey. It's like two weeks of NHL All Star Games where the players actually try. And it cool to think that a bunch of these guys who are shouldering each other into the boards will be carpooling to work together next week.
I'm glad the IOC finally allowed professional athletes to compete in the Olympics. If the games are supposed to showcase the best and brightest in the sport, thesis the way to do it. I just wish they'd extend the courtesy to our professional wrestlers, who still have to sit the games out every four years.
Actually, some of those pro wrestlers should try out as pushers on the bobsleigh teams.I'd like to see Hulk Hogan in the USAII sled.
JG Pasterjak wrote: I'm not much go a hockey fan, but I really dig Olympic hockey. It's like two weeks of NHL All Star Games where the players actually try. And it cool to think that a bunch of these guys who are shouldering each other into the boards will be carpooling to work together next week. I'm glad the IOC finally allowed professional athletes to compete in the Olympics. If the games are supposed to showcase the best and brightest in the sport, thesis the way to do it.
Enjoy it this year, because this will probably be the last year of NHL players in the Olympics.
I once had the chance to see an NHL game (Denver vs someone else) and a women's hockey game back to back one weekend. The women's teams were Canada and the US, about three months before the 2010 winter Olympics. The girls gave a fantastic game, because it MATTERED. They were playing for completely different reasons than the NHL guys were. It was also a preview of that year's (and this year's) gold medal matchup, of course.
Short version: Olympic hockey > NHL.
Keith Tanner wrote: Short version: Olympic hockey > Regular season NHL.
Fixed it for you.
Keith Tanner wrote: Short version: Olympic hockey > NHL.
Are you suggesting that taking all the best players in the world, and spreading them out over a dozen teams makes for better hockey than dispersing them amongst 100 teams playing almost a 100 game regular season schedule? That just doesn't make sense.
Olympic hockey is good, but it lacks the intensity of the NHL playoffs, even though the level of play isn't as high most of the time.
As we've suspected, second place may, indeed, be the first loser:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetorch/2012/08/03/157835076/would-you-rather-win-silver-or-bronze-be-careful-what-you-wish-for
JG Pasterjak wrote: As we've suspected, second place may, indeed, be the first loser: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetorch/2012/08/03/157835076/would-you-rather-win-silver-or-bronze-be-careful-what-you-wish-for
They all try so hard... I think they all deserve gold medals...
Well, fiddle sticks. We didn't win most medals or most golds. depending on how you count it, we finished as tied for 3rd or 4th.
Oh well there is always Japan.
The Canadian networks suggest you finished 4th...
If you do the 3 for Gold, 2 for Silver and 1 for Bronze
The finish is:
Russia 70
Norway 53
Canada 55
US 53
So that would put us as a tie for 3rd. If you let Golds break ties that put us as 4th.
If you do it by overall medal count then we would finish 2nd and Canada would go to 4th. (and Canada is Bieberland so therefore they should be DQed anyway.)
The US completely sucking at speed skating this year really hurt the medal count. We were stunningly not good at skating fast.
And pilot Steve Holcomb scored a bronze for the US in the 4 man bathtub competition.
Interesting profile story ran about Holcomb, he went through some serious depression over medical issues. Glad to see he brought home a podium.
fasted58 wrote: And pilot Steve Holcomb scored a bronze for the US in the 4 man bathtub competition. Interesting profile story ran about Holcomb, he went through some serious depression over medical issues. Glad to see he brought home a podium.
I was so hoping he would bring home Gold, but it is hard to beat a guy on his home track that was designed for him.
IOC ranks countries by Gold, then Silver, etc. so it was:
NGTD wrote: IOC ranks countries by Gold, then Silver, etc. so it was: 1. Russia 2. Norway 3. Canada (yea eh!) 4. U.S.
berkeley yea bud!
The rings in the closing ceremonies were great. Russia has a sense of humor!
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