Ian F
UltimaDork
10/1/14 12:08 p.m.
logdog wrote:
Ian F wrote:
Nuisance indeed. I saw a deer kill on I-95 the other day... in Philadelphia... South Philadelphia (near the stadium complex)... Warehouses on one side... overseas docks on the other... and the roadway is elevated 20' off the ground... 
Does South Philadelphia have the same types of playgrounds where you can shoot B-Ball outside of the school that West Philadelphia has?
Not really. The few I have seen are essentially paved lots. There are some abandoned and overgrown lots scattered about, but nothing that really resembles a green path. The only thing I can think of is the railroad right-of-way.
Even if they had those playgrounds, you'd probably get in one little fight and your mom would get scared...
KyAllroad wrote:
the problem with humans isn't our individual footprint (you could fit us ALL on Long Island with space to spare). It's things like our rampant energy consumption and the farmland-per-person required to feed us all the McBurgers we consume....
As has been stated by real estate people for a long time, they aren't making any more land.
I think this is untrue (I said I think). Look at US farm subsidies...we are able to produce so much food, the govt actually pays us not to sell it...The food we grow would be worth so little if it all came to market, that it becomes more valuable as garbage than food.
GameboyRMH wrote:
Even if they had those playgrounds, you'd probably get in one little fight and your mom would get scared...
and then, the next thing you know, you go from chillin' out max and relaxin' all cool, to moving in with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air
Joe Gearin wrote:
Yes, the deer are everywhere in the Midwest, and yes, they are big! Not the schnauzer sized deer we have here in FL. Of course there are no predators to control the population, (besides man) so they go on their merry way. It's a serious road hazard in rural areas.
Big predators are getting pushed out of their habitats and showing up more and more in populated areas. We had a black bear sighting less than a mile from the GRM offices a few months ago. (and we're in a suburb-type area) There was also a full-grown Cougar that was killed within the City of Chicago a couple of years ago. It seems Chicago cops don't have a lot of training when it comes to subduing Mountain Lions! ......It was later found that this guy came all the way from North Dakota. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuB0Koi0OvU
Why is a stripper giving me the news?
(Seriously, what is up with that makeup!?)
In reply to 4cylndrfury: I suspect using US government policies as a basis for reality will lead you down a very twisted road. Do a bit of research on your own. Do some basic math about ARABLE land (approximately 28% of the land) vs. population vs. agricultural productivity required for each person (last I checked about 2.5 acres per person). But please, don't simply take my word for it, educate yourself and develop an informed opinion of your own.
rebelgtp wrote:
All us country folks have to do is cut off ya'll city folks food supply. You will kill each other for that last can of beans. Then those that remain will try and raid the country folks for food forgetting that the higher percentage of gun owners, hunters and all around marksmen are country folk. Most city folk I know only have a gun as protection in the city and most don't practice enough with it to be effective. Us country folk also have better practice at living off the land, finding clean water, hunting, fishing and general survival than most city folk. We do that stuff for fun in places some of ya'll would never set foot cause there ain't no room service, internet connect or even cell service. You may have some that have the skills and abilities but heck we just have more. My son is 4 days old and I am already planning our first camping, fishing and hunting outings. I have games planned for teaching him survival skills in fun ways that will make it easy for him to learn stuff. I already have his first rifle (it was my first rifle I got when I was six). Heck I even have a back pack for him that will clip to my pack.
Not that I have thought of such scenarios. 
This may be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board. Clearly, you've spent time daydreaming about killing some city folk, but none whatsoever about where the things you use every day really come from.
I grew up in the country. People in rural areas don't survive TODAY without massive subsidies coming from... gasp urban areas.
It's the same half-baked "thinking" that leads people to say "The south will rise again." Which in turn makes the north laugh hysterically and spit milk out their nose.
rebelgtp wrote:
All us country folks have to do is cut off ya'll city folks food supply.
Country folk?? Most of our food come from Mega Corp Farm Co, Inc, Conglomerated worldwide. Good luck getting them to cut off food supply.
I always wondered how far they thought the south would rise before we let in more people to burn down Atlanta again.
Isn't that a Hank Williams Jr. song?
Tim Baxter wrote:
Clearly, you've spent time daydreaming about killing some city folk, but none whatsoever about where the things you use every day *really* come from.
Really? Was this really called for?
Bobzilla wrote:
Tim Baxter wrote:
Clearly, you've spent time daydreaming about killing some city folk, but none whatsoever about where the things you use every day *really* come from.
Really? Was this really called for?
C'mon, the post he was replying to was pretty much someone fantasizing about an urban/rural war. He wasn't exactly reaching in his reply.
KyAllroad wrote:
In reply to 4cylndrfury: I suspect using US government policies as a basis for reality will lead you down a very twisted road. Do a bit of research on your own. Do some basic math about ARABLE land (approximately 28% of the land) vs. population vs. agricultural productivity required for each person (last I checked about 2.5 acres per person). But please, don't simply take my word for it, educate yourself and develop an informed opinion of your own.
This is only true because there is so much cheap farm land and water available.
You can’t believe that this drought that is happening in CA is not going to be a huge benefit to future farmers world over. There are going to be lots of small changes in water management and conservation that will only benefit humanity and will only come about because now there is a real need for it.
People overcome problems when it makes financial sense to do so.
We toss more good food then we eat now in this country. When the population or financials demand it, better farming techniques will come around. Hydroponics, Multi story farm factories that use mirrors to channel sunlight or use artificial light. Genetically altered super crops that give huge amounts of harvest per plant.
It is already happening to an extent. Look at corn now vs what it was when the country was founded.
dculberson wrote:
Bobzilla wrote:
Tim Baxter wrote:
Clearly, you've spent time daydreaming about killing some city folk, but none whatsoever about where the things you use every day *really* come from.
Really? Was this really called for?
C'mon, the post he was replying to was pretty much someone fantasizing about an urban/rural war. He wasn't exactly reaching in his reply.
And it was obviously tongue in cheek. He even used the right smiley thingy. To go from a joke to calling someone a closet murderer is a bit harsh
Edit. Decided it was too stupid to pursue further. But damn.
In reply to Bobzilla:
At least someone gets it lol. Oh well there are actually some parts of it that are true. Most of my city friends are basically worthless outside of the city. I tried taking one camping one time he rented a uhaul to haul all the crap he wanted to bring ! I have a pack that basically has everything I needed and then some.
There are lots of rumblings about the divisions between country folk and city people. Heck where I live the people in the city basically ignore the fact that we are even out here. They seem to think the state ends about 150 miles before it gets to us. Out here there are quite a few people that really despise people from out west for various reasons, the least of which is them trying to dictate the way we live out here when most have never stepped foot on the soil.
Oh and as for the stuff about my son and the games I have planned for him those are true. Plan on taking him geocaching to help him learn navigation, considering where we live survival are a must to learn so many start kids young and make it fun. People get lost in the wilderness around here all the time. Heck I have come across a lost elk hunter that was about 20 miles from his camp and had no clue where he was at. I also wouldn't expect some people to understand bringing up a kid this way as they never lived in the type of area we live. I was fishing before I was 5 and shooting a .22 at 6, I have been taken camping basically since I was a year old (camping in tents, not RV's and campers) and basically exploring the outdoors for as long as I can remember.
Speaking for millennials here, we would be happy to continue living in the space between youth and adulthood for another decade. No kids, shorter commutes, no yards to mow... someone has to make the sacrifices.
Tim Baxter wrote:
Edit. Decided it was too stupid to pursue further. But damn.
Yet you still do with this comment. Did Mom and Dad not teach you how to play nice?
The idea that people in the city would wither and die if people in the country stopped sending us food is nonsense. To start with we would just have to offer your neighbors a couple shiny new pickups and they would overrun the farms and take over. Like most problems money would fix it in the short term until we found someone else to buy our food from. The notion that we would devolve into chaos and die if Starbucks closed down also is ridiculous. E36 M3 happens here and like most other places we know how to take care of it, and unlike many areas we already have the people and equipment in place to fix it most of the time. We've had problems with hurricanes, blackouts ect and everyone survived just fine without needing anyone to come out here and rescue us.
Wally wrote:
The idea that people in the city would wither and die if people in the country stopped sending us food is nonsense. To start with we would just have to offer your neighbors a couple shiny new pickups and they would overrun the farms and take over. Like most problems money would fix it in the short term until we found someone else to buy our food from. The notion that we would devolve into chaos and die if Starbucks closed down also is ridiculous. E36 M3 happens here and like most other places we know how to take care of it, and unlike many areas we already have the people and equipment in place to fix it most of the time. We've had problems with hurricanes, blackouts ect and everyone survived just fine without needing anyone to come out here and rescue us.
Not to stoke the fire here, but..... every time that happens do we not see looting, violence etc when the system breaks down in the larger cities? That just doesn't happen in rural areas. Yes, there is a lot of support and good things happening as well, but there is the break down and the crap.
Now, take the last hurricane, then imagine that NO food is incoming at all. No help from neighboring states. No help from rural areas. No food, no supplies, no electricity.... what is going to happen? When the food runs out, people panic. Panicking people do stupid things.
After hurricane Sandy there was very little looting the day after which was quickly stopped by the police and most of it involved taking water and food. I don't remember and cannot find on Google any stories about much looting or any violence. Most people were busy trying to get things going again.
In reply to 4cylndrfury:
What he heck. You might as well put your walkman on and kick it.
The best I could find was this:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/1103/Hurricane-Sandy-s-darker-side-Looting-and-other-crime
