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David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/2/15 10:47 p.m.

So, a quickie conversation that JG and I had today: Back in the '80s, what was the ratio of private investigators to the general population? And of course we're using TV/movies as our barometer. He figures it was 1:1. I said it was more like 77:78.

On a related note, Magnum hated it when people called him a P.I., yet oddly his show was called Magnum, P.I.

Discuss.

jimbob_racing
jimbob_racing Dork
6/2/15 10:51 p.m.

All I know is that I'd rather watch Simon and Simon instead of anything remotely called reality TV.

Brokeback
Brokeback Reader
6/2/15 10:53 p.m.

Recently started watching Magnum PI (I'm 25) and it's awesome!! I think I like it better than Rockford Files so far. I think it may be slightly over 1:1 but I don't know any other 80s shows

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
6/2/15 10:55 p.m.

I do love some Rockford Files.

Rob_Mopar
Rob_Mopar UltraDork
6/2/15 11:15 p.m.

Were the guys from Riptide P.I.'s too? And Stingray?

Don't forget Hall & Oates:

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
6/2/15 11:16 p.m.

Wasn't Jake & the Fat Man a PI show?

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/2/15 11:20 p.m.
Appleseed wrote: Wasn't Jake & the Fat Man a PI show?

Everything was a PI show! Well, except Barney Miller.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/2/15 11:20 p.m.
jimbob_racing wrote: All I know is that I'd rather watch Simon and Simon instead of anything remotely called reality TV.

While growing up my brother had a dog named Marlowe. Yes, named after the dog on the show.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/2/15 11:25 p.m.
EastCoastMojo wrote: I do love some Rockford Files.

https://youtu.be/Pruex3pgX1g

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
6/2/15 11:34 p.m.

Hell, even shows like the A-Team had quasi-PI episodes.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
6/2/15 11:38 p.m.

Damn . Forgot about the Equalizer, Spencer:for hire, Remington Steele, and Moonlighting.

petegossett
petegossett GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
6/3/15 5:32 a.m.

I knew someone who was a P.I. in the 80's, he lived out in the DC area but made a trip here to visit his mother(our neighbor), and I distinctly remember he brought an Uzi, a crossbow and some other hardware with him on the trip. I was about 12 at the time, so it was sort of a major event to me then. He actually let me try out the crossbow...not the Uzi however.

Nick_Comstock
Nick_Comstock PowerDork
6/3/15 6:28 a.m.

Was Renegade in the 80's or 90's?

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
6/3/15 7:49 a.m.
Nick_Comstock wrote: Was Renegade in the 80's or 90's?

90's, and lorenzo lamas is creepy.

RossD
RossD PowerDork
6/3/15 7:53 a.m.

I love Magnum, PI. Great show.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy PowerDork
6/3/15 8:07 a.m.

"Don't look at the dogs, work the lock. Don't look at the dogs, work the lock. You looked at the dogs!"

Duke
Duke MegaDork
6/3/15 8:19 a.m.

Who can forget:

pinchvalve
pinchvalve MegaDork
6/3/15 8:21 a.m.

Fun fact: Moonlighting is where Bruce Willis got his start, and Remmington Steele is where Pierce Brosnan got his start.

There were certainly a lot of shows where private citizens took the law into their own hands:

  • Knight Rider (some private agency IIRC)
  • The Dukes of Hazard (those Duke Boys were stopping whatever Boss Hogg was up to)
  • Airwolf (private attack helicopter)
  • Small Wonder (military cyborg living with a private family)
  • MacGyver (normal guy who thwarts evil plots)
  • Greatest American Hero (private superhero)
  • Scooby-Doo (they were essentially private investigators, right?)
  • Baywatch (The Hoff often took it upon himself to investigate beach crimes)
  • The Equalizer (he was an old dude, WTF was up with that?)
  • The Fall Guy (stuntman, but didn't he always stop some crime?)
  • Hardcastle & McCormick (privatly investigating old cases)
  • Jake and the Fat Man (Jake was a PI, and it was OK to call a lead actor Fat Man)
  • Spenser for Hire (PI)
  • A Man Called Hawk (Spinoff of above)
  • Matlock (a lot of focus on PIs in that show)
  • Mike Hammer (Stacy Keach!)
  • Matt Houston (Millionaire PI, bad Magnum ripoff, even the cheesy stache)
  • Quantum Leap (investigated and righted wrongs IIRC)
  • Scarecrow and Ms King (secret agent, but same general idea)
  • Turbo Teen (kid that turns into a sports car to solve crimes. I am not making this up.)
GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/3/15 8:23 a.m.

Roughly equal to the current "forensic investigator" (fictional mashup of several real jobs) to general population ratio

NGTD
NGTD UltraDork
6/3/15 8:25 a.m.

Not technically private eyes and not based in the 80's but it was made in the 80's:

and it had some GREAT cars!

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
6/3/15 8:49 a.m.

And Dennis Farina.

jimbbski
jimbbski Dork
6/3/15 9:02 a.m.

And a lot of the outdoor scenes for "Crime Story" were shot here in the Chicago area. One of the first TV series to do that. Being that Dennis Farina was a Chicago cop at one time didn't hurt either.

Rob_Mopar
Rob_Mopar UltraDork
6/3/15 9:03 a.m.

Some of the shows listed predate the '80's, but I do think the '80's were the high water mark for P.I. shows. Going back, the last season of Starsky & Hutch they quit the police and became P.I.'s

Mannix was from the late '60's/early '70's and had some cool cars. The Jim Rockford character was supposed to be the opposite of Mannix.

Route '66 was P.I.-ish, but the guys weren't P.I.'s.

The '80's Mike Hammer was a remake from the '50's, but I've never seen the original.

The oldest P.I. show I've watched is Peter Gunn, which also gave us the greatest TV theme ever.

Rob_Mopar
Rob_Mopar UltraDork
6/3/15 9:07 a.m.

And it seemed like in every P.I. show the main character gets clocked in the head and rendered unconscious on semi-regular basis. I guess the long term effects of multiple concussions weren't plot convenient.

petegossett
petegossett GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
6/3/15 9:12 a.m.

In reply to pinchvalve:

You forgot the A-Team...and Murder She Wrote.

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